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I have been reading a few comments here on pro-Pak and other sites. I have also seen numerous disturbing news detailing how the terrorists who indiscriminately slaughtered nearly 200 people in Mumbai were aided by some elements of the Indian security apparatus responsible for protecting the city. The rise of Indian religious terrorist organizations that have penetrated India’s military and politics were about to be known in Maharashtra ATS chief Hemant Karkare’s report. The movement is so strong, resourceful and organized that it threatens the Indian govt itself and warrants the label “India’s Hindu al-Qaedaâ€. India is now emerging as a new ‘terror central’. India is now grooming its own ‘Hindu al Qaeda,’ terrorist militias so that they can implement the Indian dream of India becoming the next superpower.
A new movie from The Bollywood Centrale
Mumbai attacks saw a new India, where rule of the jungle has been followed quite literally from the time the whole drama started. As this bollywood drama went on for a few days, there were always something “spicy†coming out of the Indian news. Political parties quickly jumped on the band wagon, and started asking for support very suspiciously I add, as IF it had been a genuinely sad incident , it would not have been focused on RSS, BJP, Bajrang dal’s political campaigns to increase votes. It seems that the Indian govt too, has seen too many Bollywood movies, and pretended to be the main actors of this movie all along, to this date.
Mossad and RAW: A bit of background
With Mossad and RAW allegedly working together with the Hindu extremists in India, Mumbai attacks are very likely to be planned by these three culprits too. According to Mumbai’s Urdu Daily ‘Sahara’Mossad was appointed by by Sai Baba Mandir trust to provide security to the famous religious shrines. Sahara News Bureau [SNB] report on the front page of Sahara Urdu Daily of July 27, further adds that “some security experts have wondered if through the excuse of security of Hindu temples, Mossad, which is notorious for counter-terrorism and counter-espionage all over the world and especially in Arab and Muslim countries, is allowed to step in Maharashtra state, the conditions will seriously deteriorate not only in Maharashtra, but all over India”.
Janes information group, the world’s foremost source on intelligence information, reported in July 2001 that “The Indian spy agency RAW and the Israeli spy agency Mossad have created four new agencies to infiltrate Pakistan to target important religious and military personalities, journalists, judges, lawyers and bureaucrats. In addition, bombs would be exploded in trains, railway stations, bridges, bus stations, cinemas, hotels and mosques of rival Islamic sects to incite sectarianism.”
Ben Gurion on Pakistan, published in the Jewish Chronicle, 1967:
“The world Zionist movement should not be neglectful of the dangers of Pakistan to it. And Pakistan now should be its first target, for this ideological State is a threat to our existence. And Pakistan, the whole of it, hates the Jews and loves the Arabs.
“This lover of the Arabs is more dangerous to us than the Arabs themselves. For that matter, it is most essential for the world Zionism that it should now take immediate steps against Pakistan.
“Whereas the inhabitants of the Indian peninsula are Hindus whose hearts have been full of hatred towards Muslims, therefore, India is the most important base for us to work therefrom against Pakistan.
“It is essential that we exploit this base and strike and crush Pakistanis, enemies of Jews and Zionism, by all disguised and secret plans.”
So far with the witness statements and evidence present, it is looking more and more like yet another orchestrated event by the architects of the New World Order. Mossad has already been exposed in fabricating such planned attacks on US embassy previously in Yemen (See the full article here).
Evidence and Questions
This Bollywood drama however raises many questions and concerns which are listed below:
- Unlike other so-called Islamic jehadis with beards and turbans, the Mumbai terrorists came with strange looks, wearing jeans and T-shirts, clean-shaven, no turbans nor any sign of ‘Muslims terrorists. They appear to be very western.
- According to the eye witness reports, they seem foreigner, and “fair skinned†according to Mr Pappu Mishra in this BBC report
- Also in the same report: Gaffar Abdul Amir, an Iraqi tourist from Baghdad, says he saw at least two men who started the firing outside the Leopold Cafe. He was returning to his hotel from the seaside with a friend when he saw two men carrying bags and brandishing AK-47s walking in front of them, shooting. “They did not look Indian, they looked foreign. One of them, I thought, had blonde hair. The other had a punkish hairstyle. They were neatly dressed,” says Mr Amir.
- Mumbai’s ‘Pakistani terrorists’ were a funny brand of ‘Muslim terrorists’: beer guzzling terrorists. True to the fancy world of Indian movies, Mumbai’s Jehadis go to a bar and stock up on beer before they launch their crusade. Locals say the orgy of killings in Mumbai began from Leopold café, a cult city cafe and a favourite hangout of foreigners and locals alike. Witnesses say, Three men walked into the cafe, drank beer, settled their bills and walked out. Then they fished out guns from their bags and began firing. Now usually, Muslim Jihadis who attack the enemies of Islam, are pretty strict Muslims themselves, and are not used to drinking beer etc.
- Some reports also talk about the use of powerful drugs like Cocaine etc.
This is against the basic principles of Islam to use these drugs and it is frowned upon as a western “indulgence” by orthodox Muslims from the region. I thought that terrorists were meant to be fundamentalists? Meaning they follow their doctrine in a strict manner??
- Passports were amazingly recovered from the bodies, as if the attackers actually wanted to express their or a particular nationality. This is also 911 style, seems like Bollywood directors are watching too many Hollywood movies in their attempt to become famous. This also smells every bit of Mossad. I mean how many Jihadis will think “hang on, let me carry my Passport on me, in case I need to get a visa before I illegally enter India by boat†AS IF!!!
- Vilasrao Deshmukh, the chief minister of Mumbai, was reported to have said that two British-born Pakistanis were among eight gunmen seized by the Indian commandos who stormed buildings to free hostages. Many of the British News papers including “The Sunâ€(SEE HERE)published full page articles on how two of the attackers were from Bradford area, and that this was proved from their passports they were carrying on them. This soon changed to having found Pakistani passports story though.
- It was also claimed by the Indian authorities (soon after claiming that two of the attackers were British) that now up to 7 of the attackers were British. (SEE HERE). According to this report “And reports tonight even suggested the Britons could have come from Leeds and Bradford - the same area as the London July 7 bombers.â€
- Seems like the attackers had planned to even come out alive, as none of them seemed to carry out suicide bombing style mission. IF the chief minister of Mumbai Vilasrao Deshmukh was correct in his statement above, then what happened to those 8 gunmen captured by the commandos as reported by “The Sun†here? How did they suddenly all disappear, and only Mr Qasab left in remand only to write a letter to PAKISTAN for help.
- Media was widely reporting that there were IDs of terrorists recovered that show Malaysian and Mauritius IDs. However, such references disappear after Modi’s arrival.
- Mumbai terrorists (as shown by media) had close similarities with RSS cadres: The alleged lone survivor CO-INCIDENTLY happens to be the same guy whose pictures were conveniently captured by Indian photographers and as he walked to make his kill, intriguingly wearing a yellow band on his right hand wrist in the typical style of Hindu terrorist RSS cadres.
- The attackers seem to use a boat and enter via sea when Pakistan actually border India on land too. The Indian Navy’s Western Command based at Mumbai maintains a hawkish vigil on India’s maritime borders with Pakistan. Yet, it is said that a bunch of ragtag terrorists sailed into Mumbai for the attacks we all witnessed on TV. For a moment let us assume that the terrorists actually came from Pakistan’s maritime borders. Why, then, have the Indian chief of the Naval Staff and the Commander of the Indian Naval Western Command not been held accountable for such a colossal failure?
- Was the Indian navy sleeping when these guys supposedly made their way to Mumbai. This also shows that the army/navy, and RAW itself is fully involved, unless the navy is so incapable of protecting its waters!!
- The world famous photo shown above was taken by Sebastian D’Souza, a picture editor at the Mumbai Mirror, whose offices are just opposite the city’s Chhatrapati Shivaji station. See link HERE. He is an eye witness to quite a lot of this drama, and says “I think they saw me taking photographs but they didn’t seem to careâ€. Ofcourse they wouldn’t care, it is the publicity that RAW has sought in this drama, so it isn’t completely impossible that they might have even paid one or two photographers to take a few photos.
- Mr Sebastian D’Souza further explains, the gunmen were terrifyingly professional, making sure at least one of them was able to fire their rifle while the other reloaded. By the time he managed to capture the killer on camera, Mr D’Souza had already seen two gunmen calmly stroll across the station concourse shooting both civilians and policemen, many of whom, he said, were armed but did not fire back. “I first saw the gunmen outside the station,” Mr D’Souza said. “With their rucksacks and Western clothes they looked like backpackers, not terrorists, but they were very heavily armed and clearly knew how to use their rifles.
- Masses of armed Police men were already hiding around the station where this already planned and scripted drama was being played. Mr Sebastian D’Souza says “There were armed policemen hiding all around the station but none of them did anything,” he said. “At one point, I ran up to them and told them to use their weapons. I said, ‘Shoot them, they’re sitting ducks!’ but they just didn’t shoot back.â€
- Mr D’Souza added: “I told some policemen the gunmen had moved towards the rear of the station but they refused to follow themâ€. Were they just cowardly policemen or were they actually ordered to allow these attackers to take lives willy nilly, and roam free at will?
- Local knowledge of the area and knowledge of police/army strategies and tactics. It was almost as if the entire team were co-ordinated by some method of communication. There could have maybe been a possible HQ advising them of where and when to make a move.
- India’s warmongering rhetoric against Pakistan is partly a steam valve to deflect from the fact that they were given a specific warning that this would happen and not only failed to prevent it, but let the whole thing drag out for days. The CIA’s station chief in Delhi told Indian intelligence in September that terrorists were planning to arrive via the sea and attack the Taj Mahal hotel with small arms and/or bombs. Security measures around the hotel were increased in response to the warning but relaxed just days before the attack.
- Unsurprisingly, the Indians killed all but one of the terrorists, a clean cut English speaking Pakistani, Azam Amir Qasab, who is singing from the same hymn sheet as the Indians implicating Pakistan and saying he was trained by Pakistan.
- India has allowed this only survivor of this drama, to even write a letter at such an early stage to Pakistan itself!! How many prisinors who are responsible for murdering 200 plus would be allowed to write a letter and this letter to be taken by govt officials to a particular country one may ask. The answer is simple, probably in a Bollywood movie.
- Mr Qasab apparently asks for help from Pakistan. No other Jihadis have evr sent such a letter asking ANY govt to help them directly. And what help would he be requiring, Pakistani forces to attack his prison and free him? I mean who would in their true mind expect a country to invade another country or something similar to free a man, who is responsible for killing so many? The answer is very simple again, it is also a fabricated story from the directors of Mumbai’s Bollywood industry.
- What would Pakistan gain at a time, when US has gone through elections, and Pakistani army was busy fighting the American war on terror on the western border, apart from anger from the US, and pressure from other pro-US countries? It was a senseless massacre that will ultimately help the geopolitical agenda of nobody other than the Indians and the U.S., who now have the perfect pretext to expand bombing raids in Pakistan and entrench themselves in Afghanistan. So ask yourself, who benefits from this Bollywood movie?
 - If someone wears a cross around his neck, you assume he’s Christian. If someone wears a Kippah, you assume they’re Jewish. Similarly, if someone wears a Rakhi you’ll assume it’s a Hindu.You can ask yourself why a radical Muslim would wear a Hindu symbol of devotion in his last living moments. The orange colour has significance because that is the same colouring used for the Rakhi that Hindus wear on their right wrist. It’s a ridiculous insinuation that radical Muslims would want to associate themselves with a symbol of Hindu piety.
- The assassination of the chief of the anti-terror squad in Mumbai who was exposing the Indian fundamentalists involved in the recent bombings within India. These terrorist organisations such as Shuv Seena, Bud rung daal, Durga Vahiat, BJP, and RSS, were found to be working with the Indian army, and politicians. If the America’s lap in the Pakistani government had any brains, they would have demanded that Mrs. Hemant Karkare, the wife of the Indian antiterrorism chief killed in the very first hours of Mumbai attack be allowed to speak up. Also, a retired Indian army officer, a close friend was told by Karkare in writing a few hours before he was killed that his life was under threat by Hindu terrorists and their handlers in the Indian military intelligence.
- Suddenly an unknown group Deccan Muhajadeen accepted the liablility, but India still insisted to them, that its not you, its Pakistan, simply because the drama script says so !
- No clear demands presented by the attackers. Unlike other terrorists in similar situations, the terrorists in Mumbai did not demand anything. They didn’t even demand the release of their supposedly jailed colleagues or ask for money. Why? What was their target then? Normally during this kind of attacks, the attackers would only hold hostages if they have a requirement.
- When religious organisation carry out such attacks, they would normally be proud to have successfully attacked and damaged their enemy. In this case, no one except an Indian group has ever claimed responsibility, not to mention that the group is a totally unknown group and is unlikely to have carried out such an organised attack of this level.
- Prime Minister, Sonia & L.K. Advani visit Mumbai, but no clues or no claims about ISI or Pakistan. However, the Number One Indian Terrorist, Gujarat Chief Minister Narinder Modi rushes to Mumbai and declares that Pakistan is behind the attack without any doubt! Note: no other Indian chief ministers travel to Mumbai. Modi, the killer of 2,500 Indian Muslim women and children in 2002, offered rewards to every military man killed to the tune of several million Indian rupees, which is something that didn’t occur to either the Indian government or the opposition.
- The timing of Mumbai terror is well planned, just before Indian state elections! So who will reap the benefit? Lashkar-e-Taiba or BJP? If ISI did it, then they must be . But they are not.
- How come 3000+ experienced elite forces, commandos took 60+ hours to kill 8 so called Pakistanis. 8 against thousands in real life is just pure madness…this once again smells every bit of the Bollywood directors. Only in Bollywood movies!
- The synagogue that was attacked is well camouflaged and the identity is not known even to the local people, so how come persons just infiltrating into a strange land gets to know the precise location and the building plans of the targets, storm in and kill at will?
- Although the security measures were relaxed at the time for some strange reason, but the basics were still imposed. How exactly did the attackers just walked in through the metal detectors and the guards with such amount of weapons and ammunition?
- With every window on each floor of the Taj Hotel being an entry point that was accessible by the fire brigade equipment available in Mumbai, could three terrorists actually hold that 750-room hotel building for three days against the might of India? What we saw happening in Mumbai defies military logic. How could the other nine terrorists also hold out in groups of twos and threes in a number of very accessible and widely dispersed buildings, independent of each other, for three days?
- Why did the terrorists not carry any shoulder-fired rockets/grenades and explosives to Mumbai? The attackers, if they had no love lost for India, ought to have planned for maximum destruction during the attack. Or was the attack not meant to cause extensive damage?
What’s next? ISI operated Tsunami?
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Excellent Stuff Balvinder Singh. This India drama is a farce, even Pakistan directors would have written a better Script.
You missed one point there
How come 3000+ experienced elite forces, commandos (A.K.A Boy Scouts) took 60+ hours to kill 8 so called Pakistanis(lolz)… I thought 300 movie was exaggerated for showing 300 against thousands… but seeing 8 against thousands in real life is just pure madness…
Madness??? this is India.
Its total bias
take bits and pieces of only the info you LIKE.
dont bother wat the US/UK and Indian press have to say.
Put them together and draw your OWN ANALYSIS in the comfort of ur home.
Use it to brainwash your countrymen.
Exactly wat ur JEHADIS do too… pick only the videos where muslims have been harassed.
Dont pick any video where India has helped Pakistan.
Thousands of ur ppl come here for heart surgeries.
Several realty shows call Pakistanis for performing here.
So many of them earned a livelihood from India.
Your source of entertainment comes from India ( Bollywood )
But dont talk abt all that.. cos ur purpose is to brainwash..
listen to only wat u like.. not the facts.
Draw ur own conclusions.. dont even acknowledge the facts
I guess u have lost it pscycologically and now u r trying to loose
it for your other sensible countrymen too.
It is a very well deliberated and thought provoking article, there is a little addition that i would like to add.
The synagogue that the attackers attacked is well camouflaged and the identity is not known to the people who are living in that area, so how come persons just infiltrating into a strange land gets to know the precise location and the building plans of the target and storm it and kill at will. There is a report by the Israeli agency that all the hostages in the synagogue were killed by the security personals that came to rescue them.
There is another point that although the security measures were relaxed but the basics were still imposed. How come they just walked past the metal detectors and the guards with such amount of weapons and ammunition is beyond my comprehension.
And then the blame game is just like the one the US of A had after 9/11, just blame a party and smoke it out prior to even visiting the incident site.
Once again bravo of writing such a great article and bringing out the facts that were supposed to be out well before and to be shared by all the sane persons around the world.
Children love stories and all too often want to BELIEVE them…do start writing for them,will you?
U seem to have the lack of lying and twisting truth..helps in story-telling!!:):)
Everybody in Pak knows the attackers were Indians except the Pakistani President Zardari (Proof - http://edition.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/asiapcf/12/09/pakistan.india/ … Interview to CNN … Qoute - “As was demonstrated in Sunday’s raids, which resulted in the arrest of militants, Pakistan will take action against the non-state actors found within our territory, treating them as criminals, terrorists and murderers,” Zardari
Awais,
very good point. Indian security forces have also been blamed for not actually firing at them. Without firing, this Bollywood drama could have dragged on for weeks, just like their drama serials.
I shall add this to the article above.
Thank you.
Raza,
Excellent points raised. I shall add them to the article too so the readers (who are unbiased) cane decide and think for themselves what went on.
Although the drama copied almost exactly the same style of 9/11 blame game, but I always thought the Hollywood drama was hugely better drama than this.
In the hype of Bollywood following and copying Hollywood movies, the Indian kath putlees (puppets) forgot one thing, that Pakistanis watch both Hollywood and Bollywood movies, they are well aware of how biased the Bollywood movies are themselves, not to mention that Hollywood movies are always just that “little bit” better. And I am being sarcastic here.
Thank you, I will add these to the article too.
Hasshita and “Pakistani wants to be Hindustani”,
Thanks for reading, and thanks for your comments, but do you have anything sensible and solid about the points raised or about any other “Evidence” applicable in these attacks?
Well evidence has to be presented in court, the above evidence will only stand in Pakistani courts who by any means want to dismiss the attacks.
Just two points
1. Zardari stating it was non state player
2. http://www.dawn.com/2008/12/31/top4.htm
I am not keen or inclined to surf the net and compete aganist JK Rowling!
@Balvinder,
yes i do.
read below
Islamabad: Pakistan is under tremendous US pressure to extradite to India Lashkar-e-Taiba (LeT) commander Zaki Al Rahman Lakhvi, the alleged mastermind of the Mumbai terror attacks, a media report said on Wednesday.
“The Americans are believed to have given Pakistan a taped conversation Lakhvi allegedly had with the gunmen involved in the attacks,” said Pakistan’s Dawn newspaper in a dispatch from Washington, quoting US and diplomatic sources.
The sources said that American audio experts had checked the tape and concluded that it was genuine and that the speaker was Lakhvi.
“It is, however, not yet clear if the Americans recorded the conversation using their own surveillance methods or received the tape from the Indians, who have blamed Lakhvi right from the beginning,” the newspaper said.
On December 4, less than a week after the November 26 attacks, Indian officials told journalists in New Delhi they believed Lakhvi and Yusuf Muzammil, who heads the LeT’s operations in India, had masterminded the Mumbai terror attack.
On December 8, Pakistani security officials told the media that they had arrested Lakhvi and some of his top lieutenants but they also said that all suspects would be tried in Pakistan and would not be handed over to India.
Officials in New Delhi and Washington say that’s not enough and they would not be satisfied unless Islamabad followed up by prosecuting those arrested and taking further action against other militant groups linked to attacks on Indian soil.
“Until this week, US officials had not taken a clear stand on this issue but Lakhvi’s reported conversation with the gunmen appeared to have changed their minds,” Dawn said.
Reports in the US media have also noted that Lakhvi comes from the same area as Mohammed Ajmal Kasab, the lone terrorist arrested during the Mumbai attacks.
Officials in Islamabad, however, appeared “reluctant” to accept the intercepts of Lakhvi’s alleged conversations as “authentic”, the newspaper said.
“There, however, appears to be a serious difference of opinion between Islamabad and the Pakistan Embassy in Washington over the issue.
“While Islamabad was reluctant to accept the evidence as authentic, the embassy insisted that it’s authentic and that the Pakistani authorities now needed to take steps to satisfy the international community,” the newspaper added.
@Balwinder and Owais
so u mean to say this
1. 9/11 was not executed by Taliban.. they have simply been blamed
2. 26/11 has not been executed by Pakistan..
wow wow wow
Bin Laden came on record and said her was proud of the attack..
but then, u dont want to accept the truth.
as i said, u only want to accept wat u WANT to be the truth.
u guys have lost it.. and u want to brainwash ur other countryment to loose it too !!
@ “How come 3000+ experienced elite forces, commandos (A.K.A Boy Scouts) took 60+ hours to kill 8 so called Pakistanis(lolz)” —-> Because the Paks had taken innocent women and children hostage …. thats wat u terrorists are good at killing innocent people.
@All
Ok my comments to Balvinder was censored atleast I know “truth is hard to digest”. Btw I had no abusive language in my post. Balvinder in case you have admin rights you know the post and lets keep it as our little secret esp the diaper thing.
@“How come 3000+ experienced
If rescuing was as simple as a human bomb, the operation would have been a lot simpler.
@Hasshita
Forward links, its useless to copy and paste entire articles. Leave it to the intellects to decipher the news.
@ “How come 3000+ experienced elite forces, commandos (A.K.A Boy Scouts) took 60+ hours to kill 8 so called Pakistanis(lolz)†—-> Because the Paks had taken innocent women and children hostage …. thats wat u terrorists are good at killing innocent people.
Or may be they were willingly allowed!!! , so that the world is glued to tv sets!!! , how can the verdict be given in the first hour of the attacks? while the investigations are still going on…lol…
And Imagine ATS chief dying!!! Anti Terrorist Squad chief…and still you idiots wont allow your hollow minds, to think other than what is shoved by NDtv into your puny heads.
yeah right women and children died, its a shame, 3000+ couldnt stop 8 men for 3 days… And yeah the Samjhota express Hindu terrorist was also a saint in disguise…oh did i mention??? innoncent women and children were burnt alive in there… was that a Pakistani terrorist too? disguised as Col in Indian Military.
oh i forgot, innocent women and children were there in gujrat too… Look at your selves first, you are no angels.
Great article Balvinder,
In my opinion, every Indian should think about no 23. Exactly what would Pakistan gain from killing just 200 Indians (my sympathies are those who died and injured, however this is a comparison of 200 against the indian population, when the indians themselves are killing their own minorities in thousands))? Who is it likely to benefit? and who will look like a bad guy? and who will look like a victim?
@Hasshita
It is good to see some comments from you, instead of just rejecting the Pakistani side completely like some do here.
In your news of the audio recording, it mentions that the US has given Pakistan this recording, why does india not provide this to Pakistan directly(as well as to the US)?
Now you might say as expected that Pakistanis will not accept the evidence and will reject it…well, if they think its fake, then they will. if you evidence is genuine, then at least the US will have it too, and the matter can be taken further. But the first step must be done first. Just imagine if Pakistan also cooked up a Lollywood drama like this along with some evidence, and then they werent ready to provide the evidence to you, yet had “demands” to be fulfilled, and demands that werent even fully related to this incident?????
Also it shows that indian evidence is obviously so easily rejectable, and the govt’s argument and the bollywood drama so weak that they are scared of being rejected so much. This looks cowardly, including not providing evidence with this fear, and on top, getting Uncle Bush involved because the indians feel helpless.
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“On December 4, less than a week after the November 26 attacks, Indian officials told journalists in New Delhi they believed Lakhvi and Yusuf Muzammil, who heads the LeT’s operations in India, had masterminded the Mumbai terror attack.”
Indian officials believe anything, but when it boils down to it, argument ends on the fact that “they havent got any solid evidence and thats because they havent finished their investigation” (more like they havent finished the fake drama completely as yet!!
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“On December 8, Pakistani security officials told the media that they had arrested Lakhvi and some of his top lieutenants but they also said that all suspects would be tried in Pakistan and would not be handed over to India”
Thats very generous of the Pakistan Govt. indians should appreciate the fforts made by the Pak govt. Otherwise Pakistani govt is in their full rights to say they wont do anything unless the evidence is provided to them. A govt that kills 200 of its own people only to cover up what karkare was investigating about the racist hindu terrorists who murder, burn and rape Christians, Muslims, dalits, doesnt deserve a dog to P1$$ on them let alone have someone arrested!!
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“Officials in Islamabad, however, appeared “reluctant†to accept the intercepts of Lakhvi’s alleged conversations as “authenticâ€, the newspaper said.”
The whole thing seems like a Bollywood movie as written above. I doubt anything in this is “authentic”, after all, how many of the Bollywood movies represent the “authentic” india !!!
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@Hindustani who doesnt want to be Hindustani
“If rescuing was as simple as a human bomb, the operation would have been a lot simpler. ”
OK, if these 3000+ men were able to get a little more than one Kasab at the end, we could understand your point. But what did they get at the end?? 200 dead…..plus ALL attackers dead except the one who posed for their picture!!
So what is the point of saying the “rescue” wasnt simple. none of the attackers were suicide bombers, 8 were already ARRESTED (see in the main article) reported by your own HINDUstani officials, so how did they all die AFTER being arrested ?? and why did they all die when they werent even human bombs!!!
Please reply.
@Hassita, Awais and Balvinder,
“1. 9/11 was not executed by Taliban.. they have simply been blamed
2. 26/11 has not been executed by Pakistan.. ”
I think this question should be corrected.
1. NO ONE claimed that it was Taliban who “executed” 9/11 including the US. 9 out of 11 hijackers were actually Saudi. Talibans were blamed and attacked for not giving up Ussama (previously America’s own agent).
2. 26/11 has been executed by the same hindu fundamentalists, and army men with the help and disguise of the politiciatioans who were involved in killing your own only to shift the blame to Pakistan in Samjhota express bombings, and a few others that Karkare had already revealed in his report. They were the same fundamentalist hindus who take the oath in their speeches from the stupid blood thirsty followers that they will break Pakistan into 40 pieces.
Your hindu terrorists are ready to kill their own only to be able to point fingers at Pakistan, or even their own minorities.
So YES, 26/11 was not executed by Pakistan, and is a bollywood drama gone wrong unfortunately AND india will have to back off its fake and stupid threats of war etc.
But not to worry, this drama can not go on for long, as almost a third of HINDUstani states are at war with the racist govt you have who harbour hindu terrorist groups, and these indian states themselves are enough to keep you constipated!!!
@HINDUStan
“thats wat u terrorists are good at killing innocent people.”
Wow, 8 of them holding your 3000+ highly trained men for 3 days who still ONLY managed to capture ONE of these 8 men while none of them were actually a suicide bomber??
Either these alleged “Pakistanis” are too good, or your force is absolutely cr@p.
Under any case, you better be very careful next time you point your own filth to Pakistan, or think about attacking Pakistan, because you and your hindu terrorists will have literally millions of us to deal with, at the ratio of 8/3000 !!!
:)
@Admin’s
No foul language, no religious sentiments lets see it on the blog
@Wow, 8 of them holding your 3000+……..
Such a useless piece of math, it took one Guy to blow up 54 people at Marriot in less than 30seconds. Using the same Math if he were to be around for 77 hours and 10 people the death toll in Pak would be 154*60*54*10 = 4989600. Dont you think India did better with 10 taking 184 lives in 77 hours?
If terrorist acts were as simple primary school math you would be the President of Pakistan (10% calculation is the only qualification you need), You can then call yourself “Hindustani President of Pakistan”. Do I hear a LOL now??
@All
Lets get back to the main topic and the timeline past present and future
1. India accusses Pak within 24 hours of Mumbai attacks.
2. Pak takes a further 24 hours to deny it. Guess they were waiting for Mr.10% to return from London.
3. India collects eveidence but refuse to give it to Pak to save paper and the environment.
4. Pak wants the paper since they are not so eco friendly.
5. Self proclaimed defence analyst “Zaid” applies high school education to prove Kasab is not from Pakistan.
6. Stalemate.
7. Pak Media releases news Kasab is from Faridkot.
8. Zardari states Kasab is a “non state actor”, this will make it to Oxford dictionary next year.
8. Kasab’s father claims it is his son but Pak dont accept it. In terrorism there are no relations.
9. In comes the lawyer stating Kasab is his client and was arrested in Nepal 6 years ago. Lawyers are terrorism friendly and can be related to Kasab but not the father.
10. India lets FBI interrogate Kasab, poor boy was grilled for more than 9 hours.
11. “Zaid” launches second round of attack with Bharat Verma. Bharat Verma is so popular in Pakistan now that most dont know who the President or Vice President of India but Bharat Verma is the man of the hour. Sorry Mrs. President.
12. In comes Mr. Balvinder the intern working for Mr. Zaid, uses google as power tool and puts in a post. Assumes it is a masterpiece that can get him a PhD and starts a personal blog with the same “evidence” at blogspot.
13. GeoTV crushes the PhD stating “Zarar Shah” is singing (hopefully it was not rap).
14. Balvinder sees his degree vanishing but suddenly Geo TV launches another news stating FBI finds no evidence to prove Kasab is from Faridkot.
15. Mr. Balvinder rejoices spends 31st december partying with friends and happy to see his PhD back on track.
16. New Year, New beginning Mr. Balvinder wakes up from last nights hang over reads Geo, Dawn confirming Kasab is from Faridkot. Balvinder argues Geo and Dawn are wrong and wants to see FBI report instead.
17. FBI requests Pak Government to let them interrogate Zarar Shah and Lakhvi but promptly denied by the Government.
18. Pakistan adament on evidence copy since the military is running out of paper.
19. 02/01/09 (dd/mm/yy): Zaid back on TV stating investigation is Zionist Hindu and US plan to attack Pak. Kasab is a Hindu born in Pak, caught in Nepal, released in Delhi and again arrested in Mumbai.
20. Stalemate
21. 20/01/2009: Obama takes oath, ships 30000 Americans to Afganistan.
22. Somewhere in february: Paki’s found saluting the american drones passing above their heads.
23. Somewhere in mid 2009: America runs out of bombs, money and plan to withdraw.
24. Somewhere in mid 2009+ 2 weeks: Pakistan suddenly realize they are back in stoneage and US has stopped aid!!!! and the F16 are still put on hold.
25. Start Kashmir Jihad with stones.
@Wow, 8 of them holding your 3000+……..
Such a useless piece of math, it took one Guy to blow up 54 people at Marriot in less than 30seconds. Using the same Math if he were to be around for 77 hours and 10 people the death toll in Pak would be 154*60*54*10 = 4989600. Dont you think India did better with 10 taking 184 lives in 77 hours?
If terrorist acts were as simple primary school math you would be the President of Pakistan (10% calculation is the only qualification you need), You can then call yourself “Hindustani President of Pakistanâ€. Do I hear a LOL now??
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I know you are good at primary math, but you need to go to a eye specialist ASAP.That was a suicide bombing, not some guys strolling with AK47s, and even photographed. While in our case they stopped the truck in your case police (oh forgot Boy Scouts)were hiding behind walls. Its the incompetency or should i say pre-planned incompetency which led to the death of innocent people.
And the irony, you have the guts calling it a great show by your boy scouts. Oh and what happend to the ATS chief??? he was supposed to be the CHIEF of Anti Terrorist, looks like Hindu terrorists, make him look silly in the end, just like you are making your self…oh and LOL>
@Owais
define suicide bombing, did these 10 clowns ever think they would make it out alive. Get yourself a psychiatrist high school boy.
Btw the math had a problem in case you didnt notice it is actually 154*60*54*10*77. anyway thanks for your appreciation of my wrong math.
@Hindustani, dreaming of becoming Pakistani.
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Take out your calculator,or ask you dad anyone… which causes more destruction… AK47 or 800kg of RDX. No more. Simple logic defies your head. I wont be wasting my time arguing with you.
@Junaid, Owais
Whats up with the last post, is math banned on this blog?? Just curious
Did I upset you since I asked you to use a calculator instead of the skewed logic Pakistani’s have??
Use a Calculator to calculate AK47/RDX destruction!!! thats a first. Well in India calculators have symbols like ‘+’, ‘-’, ‘X’, ‘/’, etc, I presume Pakistan has replaced these with ‘AK47′, ‘RDX’, ‘Human Bombs’,'Nuclear Bomb’, etc. Thats quite a calculator you have, can I get one?
I did try your other suggestions but no one is India has basic education of guns and RDX all “illiterate” people in India only know partial differentiation, Cabri dynamic geometry, Vector Algebra etc. I have asked them to take the Pak math course for the calculations you requested.
Btw: Did you salute the American Drone that just flew above your head today?
@Hindustani wants to be Pakistani
“1. India accusses Pak within 24 hours of Mumbai attacks.
2. Pak takes a further 24 hours to deny it. Guess they were waiting for Mr.10% to return from London.”
Thats because Indian drama script was already written, and the foul mouths were probably open before they even started the drama.
On the other hand, Pakistan wants to probably check their own side before saying anything. One minute of patience can save you 100 years of embarrassment. but I dont think Indian know it, so its embarrassment for them for many 100s of years already!
They opened their mouth twice so far about “attacking Pakistan” and then had to lick their own spit clean, because those racist hindu terrorist who put the govt up to it, dont have enough b@lls to deal with ordinary Pakistanis, let alone our forces. Another example of opening your foul mouth and then licking your own spit.
@Hindustani wants to be Pakistani,
“3. India collects eveidence but refuse to give it to Pak to save paper and the environment.
4. Pak wants the paper since they are not so eco friendly.”
Thats the biggest joke of the day, and the cr@ppiest excuse too. only an indian is capable of making up such bull.
From people who one day say that they will not provide the (non-existant) proof to Pakistan but they will provide to others because Pakistan will reject it !!!
@Pakistani Wanna b,
“India lets FBI interrogate Kasab, poor boy was grilled for more than 9 hours”
Obviously the hindus werent able to do that, so they had to show their lack of ability once again to question this guy.
Would be quite funny to see your back side being grilled for 9 hours, by Pakistanis, let alone FBI, to see what confessions you can come up with …..LOL…I dontthink you will find it so funny then……but then again, HINDUStanis dont really like to see a mirror, and a mirror is what is shown to them time and time again for what they have done and carry on doing to other non-hindus. Just that they see such an ugly image of themselves that they dont wannu look into a mirror now :)
@Pakistani Wanna b,
“Zaid†launches second round of attack with Bharat Verma. Bharat Verma is so popular in Pakistan now that most dont know who the President or Vice President of India but Bharat Verma is the man of the hour. Sorry Mrs. President”
Judging by the tone, Mr Bharat must be the most hated Bharat in bharat :)
But dont worry, none of the Bharats are popular in Pakistan. Both are slapped everytime they open their mouth :)
@Pakistani Wanna b,
“Pakistan adament on evidence copy since the military is running out of paper.”
Is that why you cowards are licking your own spit now, and standing there watching your bluff make you look like idiots ?
It seems to me that indian govt just doesnt have enough paper to supply simply, either that, or they just donthave anything solid to go on. either ways, I truly feel sorry for the HINDUStani govt. After killing so many of your own people, running such a big show, your bollywood has failed you once again. It will obviously take more than a bollywood movie to wash off this disgust from the hindu terrorist faces.
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The rest of the story presented by you is another dream story by another wishful hindu, who believes outsiders are their biggest enemies, when they themselves can not even live with other hindus let alone with other minorities. Ever shrinking religion, ever shrinking nation, ever shrinking brains, the only thing expanding is the greed, racism, and terrorism in this hindu bunya mind. Love money, live money, and pooja money. hindus themselves claim that their hindus are changing hinduism to christianity because of getting paid, another example of this love, live, eat, sleep and pooja money culture. only in india, incredible india :)
@Hindustani wants to be Pakistani on January 1st, 2009 at 8:51 am
“define suicide bombing, ”
I personally think that you lot have had enough experience of bombing, but obviously not enough as you still need help on the topic!!
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“did these 10 clowns ever think they would make it out alive.”
One minute they are highly trained men who help your 3000+ trained force for 3 days. Next minute they are clowns. If they are clowns, then what are your “highly trained men” who too 60 hours to stop them ?????,….LOLLL
And if they are clowns, then what does the whole thing become now, obviously kinda stage play, except that its not very convincing whichever way you look at it.
And the answer is already in the above article BTW.
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“Btw the math had a problem in case you didnt notice it is actually 154*60*54*10*77. anyway thanks for your appreciation of my wrong math.”
is that another example of hindus licking their own spit ?
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“I presume Pakistan has replaced these with ‘AK47?, ‘RDX’, ‘Human Bombs’,’Nuclear Bomb’, etc. Thats quite a calculator you have, can I get one?”
Dont worry, at the rate hindu terrorism is growing, either hindus, Sikhs, Muslims, or Christians will give you one as a gift, no need to get one from Pakistan.
After all, you are in the Incredible Independent terrorist india!!!
@Hindustani wants to be Pakistani,
“Btw: Did you salute the American Drone that just flew above your head today?”
No they said no need as they have had more than enough salutes for now, from the indians who have begged them to help in this matter, and have offered more than salutes…..LOL…
@The second zaid intern
1. On the other hand, Pakistan wants to probably double…….
I have little to say on these two headlines from the same media with 12 hours
http://www.geo.tv/12-31-2008/31633.htm
http://www.geo.tv/1-1-2009/31656.htm
With this I sincerely hope Pakistan lasts the 100 years of embarrassment, since for me and the practical world , pakistan is already a finished state .. jus formal end is left.
2.because those racist hindu terrorist who put the govt up to it, dont have enough b@lls …..
Well I am not sure if Pakistani’s are Human but the so called each hindu terrorist has only 2. Its beyond my imagination to picture a Pakistani with 1B+ balls.
3. Thats the biggest joke of the day, and the cr@ppiest excuse too…..
Please refer to point 1 news, I am still eco friendly cause I guess you take printout of these blogs and paste on walls to make you smile everyday (or cry henceforth). Non-existant proof to a soon to be Non-existant Pakistan lets call it even.
4. Obviously the hindus werent able to do that…..
Of course we did not GRILL him, do I need to remind you Hindu’s are vegetarians and we let the US do the dirty work. Indians knew it was Pak from the word GO and we would be stupid investing time on any investigation.It would also not be so funny when your second citizen Zarar, third citizen Lakhvi and fouth citizen Maulana who are scheduled to have a rather romantic date with FBI soon. Well after all you need to heed to their demands since they have provided food, shelter and money to Pakistan and now it is repayment time.
I concur with you Indians dont look into their mirror, its actually harder to even open our eyes. Its rather embarrassing for us to look at failed states Pak North, Sri Lanka South, Bangladesh east. We rather close our eyes and keep to ourselves.
5. Mr Bharat Verma must be the most hated….
Well he was hardly known in India earlier nor is he famous now. But we sure are glad he is popular in Pakistan now. The only gain we had was on the 30 minute call your media made for the interiew and Pakistan lost precious forex to India. I do agree it was just a few dollars but I rather you budget your spend, Uncle Sam have little left, your country has little more than few weeks forex and these dollars could come in handy to feed Mr. 10% or the ISI.
6. Both are slapped everytime….
Parents do pardon when their kids when they slap them, it would be considered inhuman to return the deed. I am sure you were treated differently, the misplaced jaw sure makes a good smile at the end of each sentance.
You are already a self proclaimed Hindustani guess the Paki’s are not treating you well. We will welcome you with open arms but just promise me you will continue to humor us with your exceptional analysis.
@The second zaid intern
No they said no need as they have had ……
Its a start atleast now you listen to your Godfather. Good Dog now jump…
@the second zaid intern
is that another example of hindus licking their own spit?..
Well no harm in licking our own spit, atleast we dont go around licking others…. you get message.
@The second zaid intern
because of getting paid…
Well Hindu’s converting to Christanity for love of money is small scale compared to Pakistan begging for money from the US to kill fellow Muslims and former friends (Hizb-ul-Mujahideen, Al-Qaeda, Lashkar-e-Toiba, Jaish-e-Mohammad,
Harkat-ul Mujahideen, Al Badr, Jamait-ul-Mujahideen, Lashkar-e-Jabbar,
Harkat-ul-Jehad-al-Islami, Muttahida Jehad Council, Al Barq,
Tehrik-ul-Mujahideen, Al Jehad, People’s League,Al-Rashid Trust, Al-Akhtar Trust,
Rabita Trust, Ummah Tamir-e-Nau, etc).
Is the money you request from the US based on Karachi Stock Index?? If so better change it soon you would need to kill your friends for free.
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Suspected_US_strike_kills_5_in_Pakistan/videoshow/3923041.cms
@New Year Gift from Washington
If the US strike killing 5 in Pakistan is a good news to you and you feel good then,
Happy New Year to you too.
Oh BTW, in a very sad incident, Indians themselves have given their country a New Years Gift too, and this one is not from the US (something that may lift your spirit a little further)
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Assam_CM_admits_security_lapses/videoshow/3923241.cms
And dont forget, there is a new article here about the above incident too:
http://www.pro-pakistan.com/2009/01/02/blasts-in-asaam-shake-india-a-failed-democracy/
I hope now you do feel better friend, and can laugh louder at the expense of others dying.
A few more points/questions added above.
hi
i can see the passion in some of the comments written above. But as a nation, Pakistan needs to be accept - being new to democracy, its really hard to guess who exactly is rulling the state. There is Military incursion in every action of the state. Being ruled by the army for so many yrs, its obvious people are also used to it. coming back to the nationality issue of Kasab, paksitan contested- he doesnt feature in the electrol database so he is not a pakistani. There are 160 million people in Pak and database has details abt only 60 million people, so officially all the remaining people are not pakistani nationls (all of u pls get ur record checked… u never know -:)
His nationality was exposed by ur own TV channel, pls come out of the denial mode, its not going to help anyone. Pls think abt the father who has lost his son during all this so called jihad( Kasab’s father). If u believe in science, pls ask ur govt. to get the DNA samples, blood samples of the so called father of Kasab. Who is telling lies will come infront of the world. As explanied over here so much of confidance that all this is Indian bollywood story, thy wl be exposed if really its that way !!
there is no point in blind belief and blind denial.. its hurting everyone.
My mind started boggling after reading all conversations of “Hindustani” & “pakistani wants to be Hindustani”.Listen guys bottom line is, that “Ajmal Kay-Sahib” is in safe hands.Bcz ,no judge can prove him as a killer bcz of lack of evidences & flaws in this case,moreover if you look at Indian Judicary facts & figure of year 2000, as under, one can easily say that for the Judge in-Charge will have tough time to pass a passive decision .
“The President of India, while speaking on 5-12-2000 at the All-India Seminar on Judicial
Reforms held in New Delhi, expressed serious concern over a backlog of about 30-MILLION,cases pending in various courts in India. He observed that each of the 30 million arrears represented the delay and denial of justice to the people. A standing committee of the Indian Parliament in its 85-th report on “Law’s Delays: Arrears in
Courts”, estimated the figure of pending cases as on 31-10-2001 to be as follows:-
Supreme Court of India 21,995
High Courts 3,557,637
District & Subordinate courts 20,325,756
Total 23,905,388
i.e. about 24 million cases.
The figures give the pendency in the civil courts. These do not include tens of millions of
other cases pending in courts and tribunals created under special laws like Income Tax, Sales
Tax and other authorities and tribunals like Labour Courts, Revenue Courts & tribunals, etc.
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