Music Halal or Haraam ? (Revisited)
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Finally something that has been widely debated with respect to its allowance in the light of Islam .There are always conflict of opinion regarding such matters. Something I found with a little research give a clear concept on Music. If we were to start this analysis with respect to the Glorious Quran, it says in Surah Luqman, Chapter #31 Verse #6 And of mankind is he who purchases idle talks (i.e.music, singing, etc.) to mislead (men) from the Path of Allah without knowledge, and takes it (the Path of Allah, the Verses of the Quran) by way of mockery. For such there will be a humiliating torment (in the Hell-fire This verse talks about purchasing idle talk, which means musical instruments. During the time of the Prophet (pbuh) there was no audio cassettes one could purchase but there we musical instruments like a rabab which is similar to a guitar or a flute It is further said in Sahih Muslim Book #004, Hadith #1942 ‘A’isha reported: The Messenger of Allah (way peace be upon him) came (in my apartment) while there were two girls with me singing the song of the Battle of Bu’ath. He lay down on the bed and turned away his face. Then came Abu Bakr and he scolded me and said: Oh! this musical instrument of the devil in the house of the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him)! The Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) turned towards him and said: Leave them alone. And when he (the Holy Prophet) became unattentive, I hinted them and they went out, and it was the day of ‘Id and negroes were playing with shields and speare. (I do not remember) whether I asked the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) or whether he said to me if I desired to see (that sport). I said: Yes. I stood behind him with his face parallel to my face, and he said: O Banu Arfada, be busy (in your sports) till I was satiated. He said (to me): Is that enough? I said: Yes. Upon this he asked me to go. Even something as simple as a bell is considered Haram, we read in Sahih Muslim Book #024, Hadith #5279 Abu Huraira reported Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: The bell is the musical instrument of the Satan. Also it says in Sahih Bukhari, this is not the one that has been refuted it in Sahih Bukhari Book #58 Hadith #268 Narrated Aisha: That once Abu Bakr came to her on the day of ‘Id-ul-Fitr or ‘Id ul Adha while the Prophet was with her and there were two girl singers with her, singing songs of the Ansar about the day of Buath. Abu Bakr said twice. “musical instrument of Satan!” But the Prophet said, “Leave them Abu Bakr, for every nation has an ‘Id (i.e. festival) and this day is our ‘Id.” The word musical instruments is referred in Sahih Bukhari 5 times In Book #15, Hadith #70 “musical instruments of Satan near the Prophet (p.b.u.h) ?” In Book #15, Hadith #72 “musical instruments of Satan in the house of Allah’s Apostle !” In Book #58, Hadith #268 “musical instrument of Satan!” In Book #61, Hadith #568 “O Abu Musa! You have been given one of the musical wind-instruments of the family of David .’ In Book #69, Hadith #494 “From among my followers there will be some people who will consider illegal sexual intercourse, the wearing of silk, the drinking of alcoholic drinks and the use of musical instruments, as lawful. THIS PART IS FURTHER EXPLINATION DEALING WITH THE SKEPTICS ARGUMENT: For a Muslim who already believes that music or singing is Haram, this should be more then sufficient. To hold and argument this view point should put both of them on the same stage. If I were to leave this topic here, this should be enough but I will not do so because I need to do justice with the topic. PEOPLE BELIEVE THAT MUSIC IS HALAL BASED ON THE FOLLOWING VERSES. The first verse comes in Surah Al-Isra, Chapter #17 Verse #55 And your Lord knows best all who are in the heavens and the earth. And indeed, We have preferred some of the Prophets above others, and to Dawood (David) We gave the Zaboor (Psalms) I question you, how is this verse show any relevance to how music is Halal ? A lot of people have a misconception and this specially applies to Muslims living in the west that Prophet Dawood (pbuh) sang /composed the Psalms or the Zaboor on a musical instrument. It is a common misconception even amongst some of the scholars that Prophet Dawood (pbuh) sang the Psalms in accompany of music. If Prophet Dawood (pbuh) was to sing the Psalms or compose it would it be the word of ALLAH or the word of Prophet Dawood (pbuh) ? The Zaboor (Psamls) was revealed just like the Quran, Torah and the Injeel. The misunderstood in this context which is taken for singing is the word Az- Zaboor which means “A Sacred Song” which by no means is an implication of allowing music. This word was given to the beauty of the Zaboor (Psalms) and how Prophet Dawood (pbuh) use to recite it. If one was to read the Psalms (in the Old Testament) one would find a mention of singing and an instrument but not in the context that it would apply to singing. It says in Psalms Chapter 7, Verse 13 He hath also prepared for him the instrument of death, he ordaineth his arrows against the persecutors. And says in Psalms Chapter 9, Verse 11 Sing praises to the Lord, which dwelleth in Zion: declare amongst the people his doings. I question the skeptics, does this by any means show even a slight bit of sign showing music is Halal? One is talking about the instrument of death and the other is talking about songs in Glory of Allah meaning a Hamd. This by no means is an explination of singing songs for God. One would never sing Nothing Else Matters by Metallica for Al Mighty God. THE SECOND VERSE It comes in Surah Sad, Chapter #38 Verse #42 “Strike the ground with your foot: This is a spring of water to wash in, cool and a (refreshing) drink.” This verse by no means is referring as striking your foot on the ground as dancing. In this verse ALLAH Subhana Wa Ta Aala directs Prophet Ayoob (pbuh) to strike the foot on the ground and when he does a spring comes forth. He then drinks from the spring and further goes to say in Surah Sad, Chapter #38 Verse 51 Therein will they recline (at ease): Therein can they call (at pleasure) for fruit in abundance, and (delicious) drink. ANALYSING THE HADITH The strongest argument that is put forth is why did Prophet told Hazrat Ayesha (RA) to leave the kids alone that were playing music. It comes in Sahih Muslim Book #004, Hadith #1942 ‘A’isha reported: The Messenger of Allah (way peace be upon him) came (in my apartment) while there were two girls with me singing the song of the Battle of Bu’ath. He lay down on the bed and turned away his face. Then came Abu Bakr and he scolded me and said: Oh! this musical instrument of the devil in the house of the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him)! The Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) turned towards him and said: Leave them alone. And when he (the Holy Prophet) became unattentive, I hinted them and they went out, and it was the day of ‘Id and negroes were playing with shields and speare. (I do not remember) whether I asked the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) or whether he said to me if I desired to see (that sport). I said: Yes. I stood behind him with his face parallel to my face, and he said: O Banu Arfada, be busy (in your sports) till I was satiated. He said (to me): Is that enough? I said: Yes. Upon this he asked me to go. The part in the verse when the Prophet (pbuh) says to allow them to play on that certain occasion does not mean it is allowed for all times. Also what people fail to see that it was the day of Eid. If for example your parents have allowed you to play till five and one day your mother calls you in but its Eid day and your father says let them play longer does that mean that your suppose to play after five o clock ? After the Prophet left Hazrat Ayesha (RA) hinted them to leave. Why would Hazrat Ayesha (RA) hint them to leave if there was nothing wrong with it ? Also Prophet (pbuh) never said they are not instruments of Saitan. He never pointed out what Hazrat Abu Bakr was saying was incorrect. Meaning he agreed with Hazrat Abu Bakr’s stand. If one was to argue that Prophet (pbh) told them to stay because he wanted to hear them, then why would Hazrat Ayesha (RA) tell them to leave if she knew the Prophet (pbuh) was enjoying it. In Islam everything is very clear. There is not a single Hadith or Quranic Verse that allows the playing of music. For those who think this is a gray area where you can not decided wither it is right or wrong, think about it logically if you are not sure wither a food is poisonous or not will you eat it ? Obviously not, for someone in their right mind would stay away from something harmful. Islam is not only a religion but a way of life, whose way of life? The ways of life of the Prophet (pbuh) and he never played musical instruments or sing songs. There is not a single Hadith that says Prophet was singing, or playing a flute or any instrument. THOUGHTS AND LOGIC A common question is: Is music really that harmful that the Prophet (pbuh) put it in the same category as illegal sex, drinking of alcohol and wearing silk. Just for reference it comes in Sahih Bukhari In Sahih Bukhari Book #69, Hadith #494 “From among my followers there will be some people who will consider illegal sexual intercourse, the wearing of silk, the drinking of alcoholic drinks and the use of musical instruments, as lawful. The question is, is it really that bad? Well my question is, is that not what your creator who knows you better than you know yourself is telling you? Have we not seen enough celebrities especially in the music field involved with drugs, alcohol, who commit illegal sexual intercourse?
Why is it that it is so hard for a normal teenager or adult to stop listening to music? Why does it have such a great impact? If this is not addiction then I am not very much sure myself what is.
SCIENTIFIC REASONING Today, science after much progress tells us that music can be harmful to humans, just to list a few: - Music affects the amplitude and frequency of brain waves, which can be measured by an electro-encephalogram. Music also affects breathing rate and electrical resistance of the skin. It has been observed to cause the pupils to dilate, increase blood pressure, and increase the heart rate. - Certain kinds of music are energizing for your children’s minds and can help them learn much faster, and even help them digest their food better. Other types of music actually drain energy from your children’s brains and bodies and can actually affect their hormone levels (this is especially a problem with teens). - Music affects cell protoplasm and even chromosomes. Consider what you are passing on to your children and their children. - Educators and researchers are finding direct relationships between music and television habits and the mental, verbal and behavioral development of our children.
To finish it off I will leave you people with an open challenge for everyone. Find me one verse from the Quran or the Hadith where Prophet Muhammad (saw) said play music, sing, where he himself did it or in any way encouraged it. If one can do that, I have no problem accepting it as long as the Hadith is authentic. I hope I have provided sufficient proof from Quran, Hadith and Logic that one would be convinced inshALLAH.
References for the scientific arguments I listed: 1. Tame, David. The Secret Power of Music. Destiny Books, 1984. pp. 141-145. 2. Ibid., p. 145. 3. Lipkin, Richard. Insight Magazine, April 4, 1988. p. 58. 4. Healy, Jane M., Ph.D. Endangered Minds. Touchstone, 1990. p. 51 5. Tame, David. The Secret Power of Music. Destiny Books, 1984. p. 138. 6. Ibid., p.141. 7. Ostrander, Sheila & Schroeder, Lynn. Super Learning 2000. Delacorte Press, 1994. pp. 91-94. 8. Ibid., p. 95. |
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Waqas i didnt get it! Why Prophet (pbuh) didn’t side with Abu Bakr if what Hazrat Aisha friends were doing is haram?
I still don’t get an explicit condemnation of it so can you please help me on it.
By the way i must share a small incident with you! I was just listening to songs and at the same time i was downloading Quran to my laptop and this question came to my mind as if listening to songs is allowed in Islam?
To my surprise, when i refreshed the blog page, the first title that came in front of me was your post! I am still not convinced much but at least i deleted the 1000+ songs collection of mine!
Anyways, may Allah help us in following the right path! Ameen
well done !! and am sure you will be available with a back up to explain Junaid’s query !
lolz! In any case my collection is gone to Bin
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I still cant clearly understand is music haram or not. Cant anybody xplain it clearly without contradications?
when Islam provided an alternative way in form of Naat and Hamd then why one dies to listen typical Music? Its nature of man to hear somethin in Harmony. Naat and Hamd does fulfill that.
Another reason of avoiding Songs etc tht they consist of typical “fake” poetry. If you read Quran, Allah has cursed poets except those who said things in praise of Allah and Rasool(SAW)
Assalam-u-alaikum Wa Rehmatullahe Wa Baraka Tu Hu
First and for most I appologize I could make it sound convincing enough. This is a failure on my behalf and here is something in a lot of detail.
I will write another continuation on this and inshALLAH will be in much more detail and stronger points =)
I am sorry or the inconvenience.
Assalam-u-alaikum
Walaikum Salams!
We will be really looking forward to it.
I read on another blog that music is not haram. More specifically, I read it at http://think-islam.blogspot.com/2008/02/is-music-prohibited-in-islam.html .. What’s your take on that?
The prohibition of music never made sense to me. I just find it way too repressive. Its a basic human desire to create and enjoy beautiful things, and music is one of the most beautiful things a person can create.
@Adnan: I don’t gather how a poem that doesn’t mention God suddenly becomes a “fake” one. There is tons of literature just talking about the miracles and ups and downs of life, nature, human relations, and the list goes on and on. I don’t understand how any one in his right mind would classify that as “fake”.
Secondly, even though the argument of the lyrics of the songs being fake doesn’t hold water, still, what about music without any words?
At brother DL, the prohibition of music never made sense because you never wanted it to make sense. You say its your desire and we all know desires can be evil. Rape is also someones desire for sex and sex is also human nature. Your argument does not hold any grounds. Plus, if you are having problems leaving something that clearly means you are in one way or the other addicted to it and any form of addiction in Islam is Haraam =)
Coming to the quotes at brother Adnan. A poem that does not mention God does not become fake unless it holds no grounds to begin with. A poem would not be fake on the basis that it does not have the word. In fact adding the word God wont make a difference either. Unless and until the poem is about God (in hid glory) it is unislamic. Real, but unislamic. =)
Music without words can only come from musical instruments or people making instrumental sounds from their mouth. Musical instruments are Haraam 100%. You can read in the article. Musical sounds from the mouth pretty much makes you look like a fool to begin with and also is Haraam, that is the reason why the Prophet (pbuh) objected on something as small as the bell.
am loving it !! waqas in his usual debating self:p
I am surprised that you yourself are convinced by your arguments.
You say, listening to music is a desire, desires “can” be evil, therefore music is bad. You further create an analogy with sex, and say that clearly rape is bad. Now, there is an important difference between sex and rape. Sex is a human desire, but rape is infringing upon another human’s rights to fulfil that desire. If that desire is fulfilled without violating anyone’s rights, it is perfectly legitimate. While listening to or creating music, you are not infringing upon anyone’s rights, so your analogy doesn’t carry over. Regarding desires: humans desire to eat good, to dress well, to enjoy life, so desires aren’t bad in and of themselves, if you infringe upon other’s rights to fulfil them, then thats bad.
Regarding addiction: I am having no problems leaving it because I am making no efforts at leaving it, nor do I intend to.
If a poem isn’t about God, its unislamic. So? I don’t know what it even means to label a poem talking about nature or human relations as ‘unislamic’? A very confused argument.
Music without words: Include computer generated music in your list too!
Music coming from the mouth makes you like a fool? Really? Even if someone thinks I look like a fool, so what?
You can say that you believe that music is haraam because the hadiths say so, and I will buy that argument, but the reasons you are giving to justify that prohibition don’t stand on sound and solid reasoing. Simply say that I don’t listen to it because the scripture I believe in says so.
Assalam-0-Alaikum!
Brother DL and Waqas! Looking at your discussion, i got my answer at least. Since we know that imaan in Ghaib is an important component of Islam so i would not listen to music considering the fact that there are Hadiths prohibiting it. But i tend to agree with DL that till date i haven’t got convincing responses. But in any case, i will go with what i said earlier and try my best to avoid it.
I would like to quote you first if you do not mind “You can say that you believe that music is haraam because the hadiths say so, and I will buy that argument, but the reasons you are giving to justify that prohibition don’t stand on sound and solid reasoing. Simply say that I don’t listen to it because the scripture I believe in says so.”
Brother, if you agree that music is haraam according to religion, then I have my job half done. Al mighty God would not forbid something that is not harmful for us. Before medical science had advanced so much people use to say that what is wrong with eating pork. Today, we know hoe many deceases one can have by eating pork, even a fraction of it is harmful for the body.
Coming back to the argument, this is the scientific aspect:
Music affects the amplitude and frequency of brain waves, which can be measured by an electro-encephalogram. Music also affects breathing rate and electrical resistance of the skin. It has been observed to cause the pupils to dilate, increase blood pressure, and increase the heart rate.
Certain kinds of music are energizing for your children’s minds and can help them learn much faster, and even help them digest their food better. Other types of music actually drain energy from your children’s brains and bodies and can actually affect their hormone levels (this is especially a problem with teens).
Music affects cell protoplasm and even chromosomes. Consider what you are passing on to your children and their children.
Educators and researchers are finding direct relationships between music and television habits and the mental, verbal and behavioral development of our children.
There are pros and cons to listening to music similarly there are pros and cons to smoking or alcohol. Just like both are declared Haraam in Islam, so is Music.
Coming back to, the comparision I made and you said as long as you are not violating anyone rights, it is fine and you made a statement “If that desire is fulfilled without violating anyone’s rights, it is perfectly legitimate.”
So your telling me that illegal sexual intercourse is right if the guy and the girl are fine with it? Brother my intention is not to hurt you or make you feel bad. If I have done that in any way, I apologize. I am just trying to help you as a Muslim.
If you have any questions, feel free to ask. It is not only helping you but helping me (to gain more knowledge and aware of counter arguments) and other who read this =).
JazakALLAH Khair
References for the scientific arguments I listed:
1. Tame, David. The Secret Power of Music. Destiny Books, 1984. pp. 141-145.
2. Ibid., p. 145.
3. Lipkin, Richard. Insight Magazine, April 4, 1988. p. 58.
4. Healy, Jane M., Ph.D. Endangered Minds. Touchstone, 1990. p. 51
5. Tame, David. The Secret Power of Music. Destiny Books, 1984. p. 138.
6. Ibid., p.141.
7. Ostrander, Sheila & Schroeder, Lynn. Super Learning 2000. Delacorte Press, 1994. pp. 91-94.
8. Ibid., p. 95.
At Sana: All in the days work..
Regarding the scientific arguments, of course music has physiological and psychological effects on you. Lots of other things do too; eating, playing, sleeping …. The fact that it can have a good and bad psychological effect on you is not a strong reason to classify it as categorically bad. Lots of things have good and bad effects on you, think watching television, reading books, socializing etc. The fact that it has a possibility of having a bad effect is not a good enough reason, when I know that a lot of times it has a very positive and energizing effect on me. Harmonious and melodious sounds are found every where in nature, and it only seems natural to me that humans also be allowed to create and enjoy them.
Having said that, I am not a religous scholar, and I am not judging the authenticity of the hadiths you quoted above. I am simply saying that I never understood the reasons behind the prohibition. If you are a really pious muslim, then you shouldn’t listen to it. But all too often we justify the things we believe in with half baked and flimsy reasons. Like Junaid commented above, if you don’t have a good reason, then don’t try to pretend that you have one either, say, that its prohibited, I don’t exactly know why, God knows better, and I choose to follow what He said.
For myself, I choose not to deprive myself of one of the most beautiful things life has to offer.
I think DL this time brother Waqas was elaborate in his answer and i tend to agree to a greater level with him.
You see there is harm in over eating and Islam said it as well. There is harm in over sleeping and that is why Islam even defined our sleeping habits so if Islam ban something all together, it means its harmful affects over shadow its beneficial affects. Anyways, am not even close to be an expert in this field, i am just trying to give you my opinion about all this discussion.
Anyways, we must appreciate one thing that the discussion is taking place in a highly civilized manner rather then what we see these days all around us.
Thats the problem with citing other commenters in your comments; if they change their mind, your argument looks weaker than it really is
I still maintain my point that the arguments quoted are not convincing enough. The thing is, that when a person is prohibited from something which he has a natural inclination to enjoy, its not enoguh to say that God said so, so don’t do it. You have to persuade the person through argumentation. But if that person “wants” to believe that the prohibition is justified, he will latch on to the most flimsiest of reasons that justify it; he is very highly biased in his judgement. Note a very important difference: I am not saying that there is no reason to believe that music is bad; what I am saying is that we do not know of any good reason, and we compromise our integrity by believing in half baked reasons and the slightest evidence that it might be bad, without being objective about it at all.
Have the courage to say “I don’t know”, or “God has prohibited it so he must have done so because of a good reason”, but please be objective and honest about the reasons you use to justify the prohibition. Religion teaches you atleast this much.
Overly religious people have a tendency to use slightest of (even false) evidence to justify their beliefs. Many of you would have gotten emails saying this or that thing in Islam has now been proved by this or that scientist. Some of them are true, but some of them aren’t, and upon careful scrutiny, you can see through the false claims. Once again, I am not saying that what was said in religion was wrong, what I am pointing you towards is the fact that religious people often have a tendency to justify their beliefs for the wrong reasons, and they are much more likely to use such reasons when the prohibition is against things we naturally enjoy.
If you want to follow the prohibition, do so, but have the courage to say “I don’t know” when you don’t, and don’t be dishonest to yourself by justifying it for all the wrong reasons.
Brother DL, first and for most I would really like to congratulate you for being a free thinker. Its people like you who actually make Daawa fun and also once people like you are convinced they actually be very good Daee’s themself.
Fine, I agree with your argument that it has positives aspect and I pointed that out myself, it has positives aspects to it. If you categorize bird sounds as music then that is not music. The music that is considered Haraam is guitar, flute, drums and all.
Music is said no for a number of reason, I did not want to tire you with long list of things to why music is forbidden because in most cases short answers are more effective and pretty reasonable.
Music is considered Haraam for the following reasons:
1. Music leads to doing of sins, as we see a lot of musicians today doing drugs, sexual intercourse, alcohol and showing off wealth. All of which is Haraam. Close to 90% of musicians do all of these things and almost 99% of them do alcohol.
2. To all those that say Allah created it, and it’s beautiful, so it’s permissible, that is totally obsurd. Allah created drugs, pigs, weapons, alcohol, women, etc. Does that make murder, drinking, adultery, etc. Halal? No. Same with music. This is a test from Allah.
If Rasulullah (saw) were alive now, would you go ahead and play music in front of him? Honestly, I doubt anybody with any sense of love for him would.
3. Also, it effects your mood and feelings and thinking. it also takes you away from reading Quran, listening to Quran, Salat or doing good deeds. It is a waste of time, it takes you away from all your Muslims duty.
If you were to analyze the current situation, I like in Canada and I have a lot of Muslim friends and I see a lot of Muslims on bus. They have there ipods, mp3 players in their ears and waste time rather then listen to a surah or reading a translation of a Surah.
I want to close my answer by saying that it does not affect me whether YOU listen to music or not. I just want the best for you, because Allah is always watching and He is aware of all things. My job is to share with you politely and logically the reasoning behind things that Allah has given me understanding of.
I hope this is a better help for you. Assalam-u-alaikum
InshALLAH i will write a follow up on why music is Haraam, it is very much needed =)
Assalam-u-alaikum =)
Interesting. Even though i have a collection of hadith and verses from the Quran i will not mention them or give the link. Everyone can feel the condition of their eman. It is something you feel. After you pray, after you read the Quran you feel it increase. Similarly, after listening to music you feel as though eman has decreased immensely. No need to go into Quran and Hadith.
Naats and Nasheeds of today are haram. They are sung on the tune of movie songs and with musiacal instruments.
Assalam-u-alaikum Wa Rehmatullahe Wa Baraka Tu Hu
Brother Mohammad if you do not wish to mention that is completely up to you but you should know that gaining knowledge for a Muslim is Farz. Similarly, the Prophet may ALLAH be pleased with him said, If you know a single Verse of knowledge, spread it. So if you are a learned Muslim it then becomes a duty for you to spread your knowledge.
Spreading knowledge without reference just seems very illogical because the person is always second guessing wither the statement is true or just a mere jugglery of words to fit ones purpose.
No…..U got me completely wrong. What i meant was that people who believe music to be halal also know the Hadiths which forbids music. All i meant to say was that the easiest way to check whether something is halal or haram is to “feel” the level of eman after a deed, good or bad.
I have no problems in giving the link brother
http://www.chowrangi.com/music-2.html
Assalam-u-alaikum Wa Rehmatullahe Wa Baraka Tu Hu
I agree that people might know the Hadith’s and still consider it Halal but there are also people who wish to learn more and honestly you have written an amazing article which I could use in further debates =).
Secondly, people who are blessed by ALLAH all mighty do feel if they do something wrong but there are others who are also muslim and believe music to be right. They are also muslim and good muslims like Yousuf Islam (he is a revert).
JazakALLAh Khair for the link =)
Assalam-u-alaikum
I pray 5 times a day, read the quran, & fulfill all my religious duties; I don’t take drugs, & niether do I smoke or drink alcohol - yet I sing & play the guitar in a rock band & I absolutely love music to the core… I believe that God has given me this gift of guitar playing & I will keep on playing… I think people need to chill out a little & open their minds.
Rehan its glad to hear that you avoid such things which are very frequently used by youngsters these days , its worthy of apapreciation . As for your guitar you should know that waqas (the author ) use to play gutar too , it would be wrong if i say not a lotta ppl knew him and din associate a guitar with him . There must be something that motivated him to stop , specially do it himself. That is all i can sya at the momment i guess , no body is forcing anyone to stop someting and no one is imposing anything , the article is a mere collection of references from Quran and hadith in the light of this argument . This coming from someone who actually played guitar 18 hours a day is commendable !:)
Salam to all friends…
I wanted to share my comment with u that is wheather music gives us energy n fun but in my view it is not haram but prohibted(makruh) in islam.
Let me explain:-
we all know that alcohal(sharab) is haram. reason? because when we drink it we are not in sense and become addicted to it>
wheater we drink a very light quantity of alcohal which definatly not effected on our health as well as we are in sense too. but it is haram…
similarly music is also a addiction. people who love music know very well this feeling. Although in is we are in our sense but some times we make such blunder mistakes in music that is not allowed in islam. examples:- bad or shirkia,vourgler lyrics. Too hard music that makes any one disturb,waste of time, as well as porn dances in music. this all makes us to become addicted of it and as well as makes us away from religion. In this way music is haram in islam. In my view only sufiana music(religious music is halal that is of shah abdul latif bhitai,nusrat fateh ali khan and many more..
But i must say that i am not a mufti. I tell u all thinks in logicall mannar. for further details of islamic point of view plz contact ant mufti or alim-e-din.
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ISlam main aj kal kay dino jaisa music mana hai.. Every mufti in islam is commited that ciggrates is makruh ansha) from it.d even some of them said that it is haram. Even when we smoke we are in sense and we dont get and kind of addiction(nasha) that makes us unconcious. Similarly music is also an addiction(nasha) and even we don’t get any kind of harm in our practical life but it is totally makruh and should be avoided. Hope u agree with me..
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Assalam u allaikum to all friends
i m very happy dat Islam is being discussed here with open views and Islam isnt a mere religion.it is a complete way of livng life.v al r creations of the Creator, The Almighty Allah wat he knws is absolutly just nd v shdnt argue Him. He has made music haram for us.it is haram as provd by Quran nd Hadiths.music is harmful coz Allah’s verses are absolutly right.
Avoid music .it can harm us if nt here den definitly hereafter.moreover ths world is a test plac for us. V hv to sacrifice our lasting desires so dat v cn get everlastng thngs on d day of judgement.
May Allah show us Sirat ul Mustaqeem.AMEEN.
Why didn’t Allah prohibit Music in the Qur’an ? Everything else is clearly prohibited in Islam, yet we dwell on the permissibility of music..
As far as the hadiths go, i understand they can be very powerful of course. but, as we all know, some hadiths, even bukhari, can be fabricated.
my question is this,
why would muhammed (pbuh) preach against music, if god hasnt mentioned it in the quran?
Dear Hammad,
Please make one thing very very clear that NO SINGLE HADITH IS FABRICATED IN SAHIH BOOKS.
Just because in some classes its not known that how much hard work has been done to make sure the authenticity of Hadith dosent mean that u put the charges of Fabrication on the great scholar.
If you accept what u say (Hadits even bukhari may have been fabricated) than you totally cut off the source of Hadith. I cant accept to build my life on the book of a person whom i think is a lier.
Just to add to you knowledge the Muslim Umaah created many new branches of knowledge that didnt exist before just for the judgement of Authenticity of Hadith. lifes of More than 100 thousand people were fully preserved because they were used as references in Hadith.
May be you wanted to say that some person quote Hadith being from Sahih Bukhari or other Sahih books when they are not actually there. but this can be checked by purchasing the Orignal books or even some are available on net.
I cant explain every thing very well due to may own lack of knowledge but just want to clear that that there is no fabricated Ahadith in Sahih books
I think it’s obvious when a hadith is authentic just by its nature..
don’t we view the Quran as complete?
http://www.submission.org/music.html
check that out, and let me know if it’s valid.
thanks for your input
Salam
Brother Hamad, the Quran on its own is complete, what you need to understand is that people who say the Quran is enough are people who do not have knowledge of Islam.
How can one person say that the Quran is enough and pray 5 times a day, he would not know how. The process of how you pray your namaz comes from the Hadith not the Quran. The Quran does not even speak of 5 prayers, it has Surah Al Asr, Surah Al Fajr but no where is it said that these are Salah even in the Surahs
Hope you have a clearer vision of the subject now =)
Ah…I understand Prophet Muhammad’s ahadiths SUPPLEMENT the Quran, yes of course. But why would a hadith speak against something the Quran doensn’t even mention once?
Example: The Quran mentions prayer, so Muhammad teaches how to pray.
Why would Muhammad forbid music if the Quran doesn’t mention it?
MUSIC WEAKENS EMAN WHETHER A PERSON BELIEVES IT TO BE HALAL OR HARAM.WHO SAYS IT IS NOT MENTIONED IN THE QURAN.
Allah Most High says:
“And there are among men, those that purchase idle tales, to mislead from the path of Allah and throw ridicule. For such there will be a humiliating punishment.” (Surah Luqman, V. 6)
The great Companion Sayyiduna Abd Allah ibn Mas’ud (R.A.)states in the explanation of the word “idle tales”:
“By Allah its meaning is music.” (Sunan al-Bayhaqi, 1/223 authenticated by al-Hakim in his Mustadrak, 2/411)
Imam Ibn Abi Shayba related with his own transmission that he (Ibn Mas’ud) said: “I swear by Him besides Whom there is no God that it refers to singing.” (132/5)
The great Companion and exegete of the Qur’an, Sayyiduna Abd Allah ibn Abbas (Allah be pleased with him) states:
“The meaning of the word is music, singing and the like.” (Sunan al-Bayhaqi, 1/221& Musannaf Ibn abi Shayba, 132/5)
He also stated:
“Music and the purchase of female singers.” (Musannaf Ibn Abi Shayba, 132/5)
Hasan al-Basri said:
“This verse was revealed in relation to singing and musical instruments.” (Tafsir ibn Kathir, 3/442)
“Those who witness no falsehood, and if they pass by futility, they pass by it with honourable avoidance.” (Surah al-Furqan, V. 72)
Imam Abu Bakr al-Jassas relates from Imam Abu Hanifah that the meaning of “falsehood (zur)” is music and song. (Ahkam al-Qur’an, 3/428)
“Lead to destruction those whom you can among them with your (seductive) voice.” (Surah al-Isra, V.64)
One of the great exegete, Mujahid interpreted the word “voice (sawt)” by music, singing, dancing and idle things. (Ruh al-Ma’ani, 15/111)
Imam Suyuti (Allah have mercy on him) quoted Mujahid as saying: “Voice (in this verse) is singing and flute.” (al-Iklil fi istinbat al-tanzil, 1444)
Another exegete, Dahhak also interpreted the word “Sawt” with flutes. (Qurtubi, al-Jami` li Ahkam al-Qur’an, 10/288)
HERE’S SOME HADITH
Abd Allah Ibn Umar (Allah be pleased with him) reports that the Messenger of Allah said: Verily Allah has forbidden alcohol, gambling, drum and guitar, and every intoxicant is haram (Musnad Ahmad & Sunan Abu Dawud).
Sayyiduna Abu Malik al-Ashari reports that he heard the Messenger of Allah say: There will appear people in my Ummah, who will hold adultery, silk, alcohol and musical instruments to be lawful (Sahih al-Bukhari)
Abd Allah ibn Masud reports that the Messenger of Allah said: Song makes hypocrisy grow in the heart as water makes plants grow (Sunan al-Bayhaqi).
Sayyiduna Ali ibn Talib reports that the blessed Messenger of Allah said: “When my Ummah begin doing fifteen things, they will be inflicted with tribulations, and (from those 15 things He said): “When female singers and musical instruments become common.” (Sunan Tirmidhi)
Na’fi reports that once Abd Allah ibn Umar heard the sound of a Sheppard’s flute. He put his fingers in his ears, turned his mule away from the road and said: “O Nafi’! Can you hear? I (Nafi’) replied with the affirmative. He carried on walking (with his fingers in his ears) until I said: “the sound has ceased” He removed his fingers from his ears, came back on to the road and said: “I saw the Messenger of Allah doing the same when he heard the flute of the Sheppard.” (Abu Dawud,Ibn Majah)
Sayyiduna Abd Allah ibn Umar reports that the Messenger of Allah said: “Verily Allah has forbidden alcohol, gambling, drum and guitar, and every intoxicant is haram.” (Musnad Ahmad, Sunan Abu Dawud)
Abu Umama reports that the Messenger of Allah said: “Allah Mighty and Majestic sent me as a guidance and mercy to believers and commanded to destroy musical instruments, flutes, strings, crucifixes, and the affairs of the pre-Islamic period of ignorance.”(Musnad Ahmad, Abu Dawud)
Sayyiduna Anas (Allah be pleased with him) reports that the Messenger of Allah said: “On the day of Resurrection, Allah will pour molten lead into the ears of whoever sits listening to a songstress.” (Ibn Asakir, Ibn al-Misri)
ONCE AGAIN, MUSIC WEAKENS EMAN, BELIEVE WHAT YOU WANT
“And there are among men, those that purchase idle tales, to mislead from the path of Allah and throw ridicule. For such there will be a humiliating punishment.” (Surah Luqman, V. 6)
Even if “idle tales” means music, this verse doesn’t clearly forbid it. It mentions that those who purchase idle tales TO MISLEAD FROM THE PATH OF ALLAH will have a humiliating punishment. What about idle tales that don’t mislead from the path of Allah? (ex. A Muslim who prays 5 times a day while maintaining a hobby or career in music?)
Otherwise, where is the sin? Prophet Muhammad is the greatest human scholar of the Quran. He never mentioned explicitly that this verse forbids music.
The common hadith that most people cite in perspective of forbidding music:
‘From among my followers there will be some people who will consider illegal sexual intercourse, the wearing of silk (clothes), the drinking of alcoholic drinks and the use of musical instruments, as lawful.’
The above hadith has been refuted among scholars.
This is a quote from a website:
In fact, the hadith in hand dispraises the manners of a group of people who indulge themselves in luxuries, drinking alcohol and listening to music. Therefore, Ibn Majah narrates this hadith from Abu Malik Al-Ash`ari in the following wording: “From among my followers there will be some people who will drink wine, giving it other names while they listen to musical instruments and the singing of female singers; Allah the Almighty will make the earth swallow them and will turn them into monkeys and pigs.” (Reported by Ibn Hibban in his Sahih )
Read more hear:
http://www.muslimaccess.com/articles/misc/music_in_islam.asp
There are many other websites for music.
It’s not fair to say it’s Haram, as Haram is a strong word and only Allah makes things haram. Atleast say it’s debated, or makrooh.
Peace to all my brothers, Muslim or non Muslim.
My brother Hamad
You have given some great information but Allah Subhana Wa Ta Aala does not point out everything that is wrong in the Quran, a lot comes from the Sunnah, for example the way to pray Namaz. So Sunnah is very important by Sunnat i mean Hadiths.
A lot comes from the Hadith and we see the time of Abraham, Moses, Eesa and all, Music was Haraam then and is Haraam now. Not makrooh but Haraam meaning forbidden.
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jazakallah brother great points, and i hope you wont mind if i make a video discussing these things.
using these exact points, i will give this site as a reference
Salamun Aleykum,
For a believer, Whatever forbidden in Quran and/or Hadith, is forbidden……that’s it…no justifications, no whys, no whats, no hows and no personal ideologies. Its not to be proved and justified by science, philosophy and whatever means. Science is under Islam and Islam Doesn’t need its help to be believed and proved.
When I went through the discussion i was thinking of some occasions,
When Sharab was declared haram, no body from Prophet`s(PBUH) companions(RA) asked why, prove it by science then we will stop it……….and now in this Roshan Khayali Era we are so open and courageous to ask these questions.
After Meraage, no questions…..whatever He(PBUH) said that was enough for them(RA) to believe and think if this would have been declared to the Roshan Khayal people of this century what would they say…..
And for many other aspects like pork , non-zabeeha , interest and lottery are haram, also about SHAQ AL QAMAR, they did not raise these WHYS AND WHATS AND HOWS but some people of 21st century have got so much ROSHNI that they want justifications to believe……….(Thanks to Musharraf)
Friends, it is to be remembered for all of us that one day we have to be accountable for our words and our thoughts/beliefs, Islam doesn’t need us and we are the one who need Islam for our success in life and hereafter.
Thanks a lot,
My apologies for any one offended.
Habib Chaudhry