You have given some great information but Allah Subhana Wa Ta Aala does not point out everything that is wrong in the Quran, a lot comes from the Sunnah, for example the way to pray Namaz. So Sunnah is very important by Sunnat i mean Hadiths.

A lot comes from the Hadith and we see the time of Abraham, Moses, Eesa and all, Music was Haraam then and is Haraam now. Not makrooh but Haraam meaning forbidden.

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Even if “idle tales” means music, this verse doesn’t clearly forbid it. It mentions that those who purchase idle tales TO MISLEAD FROM THE PATH OF ALLAH will have a humiliating punishment. What about idle tales that don’t mislead from the path of Allah? (ex. A Muslim who prays 5 times a day while maintaining a hobby or career in music?)

Otherwise, where is the sin? Prophet Muhammad is the greatest human scholar of the Quran. He never mentioned explicitly that this verse forbids music.

The common hadith that most people cite in perspective of forbidding music:
‘From among my followers there will be some people who will consider illegal sexual intercourse, the wearing of silk (clothes), the drinking of alcoholic drinks and the use of musical instruments, as lawful.’

The above hadith has been refuted among scholars.

This is a quote from a website:

In fact, the hadith in hand dispraises the manners of a group of people who indulge themselves in luxuries, drinking alcohol and listening to music. Therefore, Ibn Majah narrates this hadith from Abu Malik Al-Ash`ari in the following wording: “From among my followers there will be some people who will drink wine, giving it other names while they listen to musical instruments and the singing of female singers; Allah the Almighty will make the earth swallow them and will turn them into monkeys and pigs.” (Reported by Ibn Hibban in his Sahih )

Read more hear:

http://www.muslimaccess.com/articles/misc/music_in_islam.asp

There are many other websites for music.

It’s not fair to say it’s Haram, as Haram is a strong word and only Allah makes things haram. Atleast say it’s debated, or makrooh.

Peace to all my brothers, Muslim or non Muslim.

Abd Allah Ibn Umar (Allah be pleased with him) reports that the Messenger of Allah said: Verily Allah has forbidden alcohol, gambling, drum and guitar, and every intoxicant is haram (Musnad Ahmad & Sunan Abu Dawud).

Sayyiduna Abu Malik al-Ashari reports that he heard the Messenger of Allah say: There will appear people in my Ummah, who will hold adultery, silk, alcohol and musical instruments to be lawful (Sahih al-Bukhari)

Abd Allah ibn Masud reports that the Messenger of Allah said: Song makes hypocrisy grow in the heart as water makes plants grow (Sunan al-Bayhaqi).

Sayyiduna Ali ibn Talib reports that the blessed Messenger of Allah said: “When my Ummah begin doing fifteen things, they will be inflicted with tribulations, and (from those 15 things He said): “When female singers and musical instruments become common.” (Sunan Tirmidhi)

Na’fi reports that once Abd Allah ibn Umar heard the sound of a Sheppard’s flute. He put his fingers in his ears, turned his mule away from the road and said: “O Nafi’! Can you hear? I (Nafi’) replied with the affirmative. He carried on walking (with his fingers in his ears) until I said: “the sound has ceased” He removed his fingers from his ears, came back on to the road and said: “I saw the Messenger of Allah doing the same when he heard the flute of the Sheppard.” (Abu Dawud,Ibn Majah)

Sayyiduna Abd Allah ibn Umar reports that the Messenger of Allah said: “Verily Allah has forbidden alcohol, gambling, drum and guitar, and every intoxicant is haram.” (Musnad Ahmad, Sunan Abu Dawud)

Abu Umama reports that the Messenger of Allah said: “Allah Mighty and Majestic sent me as a guidance and mercy to believers and commanded to destroy musical instruments, flutes, strings, crucifixes, and the affairs of the pre-Islamic period of ignorance.”(Musnad Ahmad, Abu Dawud)

Sayyiduna Anas (Allah be pleased with him) reports that the Messenger of Allah said: “On the day of Resurrection, Allah will pour molten lead into the ears of whoever sits listening to a songstress.” (Ibn Asakir, Ibn al-Misri)

ONCE AGAIN, MUSIC WEAKENS EMAN, BELIEVE WHAT YOU WANT

Allah Most High says:

“And there are among men, those that purchase idle tales, to mislead from the path of Allah and throw ridicule. For such there will be a humiliating punishment.” (Surah Luqman, V. 6)

The great Companion Sayyiduna Abd Allah ibn Mas’ud (R.A.)states in the explanation of the word “idle tales”:

“By Allah its meaning is music.” (Sunan al-Bayhaqi, 1/223 authenticated by al-Hakim in his Mustadrak, 2/411)

Imam Ibn Abi Shayba related with his own transmission that he (Ibn Mas’ud) said: “I swear by Him besides Whom there is no God that it refers to singing.” (132/5)

The great Companion and exegete of the Qur’an, Sayyiduna Abd Allah ibn Abbas (Allah be pleased with him) states:

“The meaning of the word is music, singing and the like.” (Sunan al-Bayhaqi, 1/221& Musannaf Ibn abi Shayba, 132/5)

He also stated:

“Music and the purchase of female singers.” (Musannaf Ibn Abi Shayba, 132/5)

Hasan al-Basri said:

“This verse was revealed in relation to singing and musical instruments.” (Tafsir ibn Kathir, 3/442)

“Those who witness no falsehood, and if they pass by futility, they pass by it with honourable avoidance.” (Surah al-Furqan, V. 72)

Imam Abu Bakr al-Jassas relates from Imam Abu Hanifah that the meaning of “falsehood (zur)” is music and song. (Ahkam al-Qur’an, 3/428)

“Lead to destruction those whom you can among them with your (seductive) voice.” (Surah al-Isra, V.64)

One of the great exegete, Mujahid interpreted the word “voice (sawt)” by music, singing, dancing and idle things. (Ruh al-Ma’ani, 15/111)

Imam Suyuti (Allah have mercy on him) quoted Mujahid as saying: “Voice (in this verse) is singing and flute.” (al-Iklil fi istinbat al-tanzil, 1444)

Another exegete, Dahhak also interpreted the word “Sawt” with flutes. (Qurtubi, al-Jami` li Ahkam al-Qur’an, 10/288)

How can one person say that the Quran is enough and pray 5 times a day, he would not know how. The process of how you pray your namaz comes from the Hadith not the Quran. The Quran does not even speak of 5 prayers, it has Surah Al Asr, Surah Al Fajr but no where is it said that these are Salah even in the Surahs

Hope you have a clearer vision of the subject now =)

don’t we view the Quran as complete?
http://www.submission.org/music.html

check that out, and let me know if it’s valid.
thanks for your input

Salam

Just to add to you knowledge the Muslim Umaah created many new branches of knowledge that didnt exist before just for the judgement of Authenticity of Hadith. lifes of More than 100 thousand people were fully preserved because they were used as references in Hadith.

May be you wanted to say that some person quote Hadith being from Sahih Bukhari or other Sahih books when they are not actually there. but this can be checked by purchasing the Orignal books or even some are available on net.

I cant explain every thing very well due to may own lack of knowledge but just want to clear that that there is no fabricated Ahadith in Sahih books

my question is this,

why would muhammed (pbuh) preach against music, if god hasnt mentioned it in the quran?