Comments on: Music Halal or Haraam ? (Revisited)

By: USMAN Hashmani

USMAN Hashmani — Sat, 20 Feb 2010 11:12:47 +0000

@Baboo Waqas–How do you ignore sect in Islam,there would be 72-sects in Islam upto dooms day eve.

By: farman

farman — Fri, 19 Feb 2010 08:26:26 +0000

Hi,
I just read a Really Good argument! and Learned a Lot from it!
But!
AS what i Know….. EVERYTHING done with good NIYAT is Good!
I my self am a Musician… I only make Music for PEACE, Stop TERRORISM, HAPPINESS, Stop Violence, Brotherhood etc…
No GF And BOYFRIENDs and all that!
I Say that If music is made for Doing Something GOOD!
Means it Is Not bad!
And as Far as Why i say That Music is Not WRONG is

1= When in WINDY season.. The air Passes Through the WINDOW.. ir CREATES a Sound… Like FLUTE on a certain Frequency/pitch! Ohh.. Means NATURE IS DOING A HARAAM THING? KILL THE NATURE?
NATURE IS NOT A MAN MADE THING… IT IS MADE BY ALMIGHTY ALLAH!
MANY BIRDS Sings in a Certain RAGAs and THEY are not Even using Words!
Ohhhh… Then it is also DOing a HARAM thing… KILL IT TOO!
THe NAAT and HAMDs are also made on RAGAS… oooohhhh… KILL THEM too!
The Blowing of Air is Also Done on a SCALE! EVEN….. THE AZAAN is DOne On a Certain RAAGA!

2= As What i Know… Anything ENDS and STARTS again is in RHYTHM… Rhythm is one of the 2 Parst of Music, also Known as TAAL… When U CHEW Something.. Ur making a Rhythm… OR even a TIC TAC Of A watch Is in rhythm… And is CREATING music!
But it is Being Used For GOOD reason!
SO
What i say is.. IF MUSIC IS MADE FOR A GOOD REASON!
THEN ITS RIGHT!
Refrence…. Micheal Jacksons- Earthsong etc!

By: Yasir Umair

Yasir Umair — Sat, 06 Feb 2010 10:10:56 +0000

This is to Samina Khan. I was not declaring that Music is halal or haram in Islam. But i dont know which hadith are talking about. Please if your giving a statement or something please give an authentic source with it. Thanks.

By: Waqas Ali

Waqas Ali — Sun, 10 Jan 2010 01:54:21 +0000

I am not so sure about following what the Ullemas say because for one, Ullemas believe in sects and sects in Islam are Haaram. Ullemas are also humans and all humans make mistake. Follow what is clearly said in the Hadith and Quran and regardless of what any Ullema says. =)

By: USMAN Hashmani

USMAN Hashmani — Fri, 08 Jan 2010 11:03:29 +0000

We are not an authority to declare that music is Halal.All Ulemas of different “Muktaba-e-Fikar” are agreed in the light of Quran & sunnah that Music & poetry both are Haram.Dont go in deep,dont try to find a logic.Don’t try to find a midway.Once it is said Haram, is Haram,at the day of judgement present your logics over there.Why we don’t get a point bcz our every move in life is against Shariah thats why we don’t get the point.

By: Samina Khan

Samina Khan — Thu, 07 Jan 2010 16:37:40 +0000

This is to Yasir Umair-So you are gonna ignore the hadith and take your guidance from a movie? I’ve heard it all now.

By: Yasir Umair

Yasir Umair — Wed, 25 Nov 2009 09:28:14 +0000

There is a movie named (KHUDA KEY LIYE). I think it was released about two years ago and above all it is a Pakistani production. If any of my discussion fellows have seen this movie before or those who haven’t seen it yet. Let me tell you that this movie spreads a clear message from an authentic source that music is not haraam in Islam.
I don’t remember the source. watch the last 15 minutes of the movie and you’ll get that.

By: Waqas

Waqas — Wed, 16 Sep 2009 23:48:46 +0000

I dont think this was anything like a battle, its was more or less and exchange of views and I still do stick with my opinion on it keeping in mind

Book #69, Hadith #494 From among my followers there will be some people who will consider illegal sexual intercourse, the wearing of silk, the drinking of alcoholic drinks and the use of musical instruments, as lawful.

So Prophet (pbuh) has already warned us about people considering it lawful, so I did my part, take what ever positive you fine =)

By: Ramzan shah

Ramzan shah — Tue, 15 Sep 2009 17:51:44 +0000

salam…….purely on the notes provided by both waqas and sameer,i thnk so sameer has won the battle..amazing dude…….waqas u r not bad.very kooooooll dude

By: RABIA

RABIA — Tue, 18 Aug 2009 18:01:35 +0000

waqas bhai u did exellent job being a muslim..MASHALLAH..

By: Sameer

Sameer — Sun, 19 Jul 2009 13:03:40 +0000

I remember when i go to Pakistan, the change doesnt suit me for some time. So, if I dont find a camel, can i try cow’s urine? :p
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My dear friend, I wasnt insulting my PURE religion. It was just about the fabrications that insult our religion. Pork is explicitly mentioned to be permissible in case of necessity, i.e. u have nothing else to eat. The Prophetic Medication (Tibb Annabwee) has got so many things to treat sickness (like Black Seed, honey, barley, olive oil, dates etc.) and i dont think Madina ever lacked (at least) any of such resources. Still we blame Prophet to use such wierd medications? It is like curing a flue with wine when you already have a Panadol CF :p Even then if you think it to be actions of the Prophet, you should prove it whenever you fall ill :)
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We can never understand these things unless we remove the word SAHIH from our books. HOWCOME? Because Believing in these books completely means believing that our Qur’an is not in its complete form with us these days[See Sahih Muslim, Book 005, Number 2286; and Bukhari Volume 6, Book 61, Number 527]. Qur’an at several places mentions that Allah created the universe in SIX days whereas SAHIH MUSLIM tells that Allah created everything in SEVEN days [Book 039, Number 6707]. Sahih Muslim tells that Allah will put the burden of bad deeds of a muslim (even equal to mountain) over Jews or Christians instead [Book 037, Number 6668] whereas Qur’an tells every person shall be rewarded as per his own deeds [6:164, 3:199,53:38-41]. Not only this, Qur’an mentions that even Jews and Christians will be awarded for their good deeds [3:199, 5:69]

To your astonishment, Musnad Ahmed quotes few hadeeth that Prophet condemned recording of Hadeeth or anything other than Qur’an. But then, what is Musnad Ahmed? :)
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Have you ever wondered why there are contradictions within ahadeeth and ahadeeth with Qur’an? It’s because it is not from God “… And if it were from any other than Allah, they would have found in it many contradictions.” [4:82]

By: Waqas

Waqas — Sat, 18 Jul 2009 19:36:05 +0000

That camel urine is to avoid sickness, please dont insult your religion when you dont know the pretext of the Hadith. Your allowed to eat pork if there is no food and your going to die.

So its in extreme cases to avoid sickness, and this is what I mean by you being confused. How is eating pork, an animal that eats its own fieces worse then camel urine. We do something in extreme situations and this is what non muslims do all the time. =)

By: Sameer

Sameer — Fri, 17 Jul 2009 11:59:21 +0000

Sorry, I did not see your reply before my last post. I dont believe you’ve referred to such a confused book…

At times, it shows all types of singing and music is haram, referring to abu hanifa & other HUMANLY ulemas and quoting other hadeeth that even daff (’azf) is PROHIBITED while mentioning other hadeeth that singing and instruments are permitted. That author mentions logically the distractions caused by music and singing but in JIHAD & ITS ADJUNCT glorifies its benefits to muster up courage. How hypocritical i’d say!!! He refers to anything against music to be AUTHENTIC. You can judge his credibiliy where he states a fabricated hadeeth “Singing sprouts hypocrisy in the heart as rain sprouts herbs and greens” to be “AUTHENTIC” [Read the detailed explanation of 97th or 98th hadeeth in "100 Fabricated Hadeeth"].

I’m not amazed by that author not to discuss the issue of WEARING OF SILK in that very same hadeeth. =) I’m also not amazed when people try to rationalize a SO-CALLED HARAM thing to be allowed and permissible on special occasions :p

Anyway, enough is said about music. The rest is up to the minds. In the end, I offer those people to drink camel’s urine whosoever claims everything contained in Bukhari and other hadeeth to be AUTHENTIC and SAHEEH [Volume 7, Book 71, Number 590 (also see Number 623)]hehehe

By: Sameer

Sameer — Thu, 16 Jul 2009 23:20:10 +0000

I’m amazed that the clarification of “making lawful illegal sex,alcohol and music” hadeeth has been censored during moderation :)

Anyway, my message is conveyed to you. Now if u still stick to that false hadeeth, its up to “Laa Ikraaha fiddeen=No compulsion in Deen” [Baqara]

I noticed your article saying “Why is it that it is so hard for a normal teenager or adult to stop listening to music?” Let me tell you that i avoided listening to music since i was a baby. I heard it was HARAM as u heard abt it. I used to put fingers in my ear when there was any music. I abstained from it till i was around 18. I’ve spent most of my (dark) teenage without music. Even now, i’m 22 y o, i dont feel too addictive. Days pass by without listening to music. However, i feel more relaxed and fresh when i listen to some music.

Last thing I’d tell you… Even if u think ahadeeth forbidding music r good, they are abrogated by now as Allah says in the Qur’an “All good things are made lawful for you (from) THIS DAY” [Sura Maida]. The question is WHICH DAY? Previous to this verse Allah says “THIS DAY, we have completed your religion for you…”

wallahu a’lum

By: Waqas

Waqas — Thu, 16 Jul 2009 21:40:17 +0000

Brother Sameer

You are very confused on many point of Islam and specially regarding the part of Zaboor.

Your views are your views but this is a study done that covers all the points regarding music. You will need adobe for this. Please look into it

http://www.missionislam.com/knowledge/books/Music%20and%20Singing.pdf

This covers all the points you have made. =)

Regards

Waqas