Finally something that has been widely debated with respect to its allowance in the light of Islam .There are always conflict of opinion regarding such matters. Something I found with a little research give a clear concept on Music.
If we were to start this analysis with respect to the Glorious Quran, it says in Surah Luqman, Chapter #31 Verse #6
And of mankind is he who purchases idle talks (i.e.music, singing, etc.) to mislead (men) from the Path of Allah without knowledge, and takes it (the Path of Allah, the Verses of the Quran) by way of mockery. For such there will be a humiliating torment (in the Hell-fire
This verse talks about purchasing idle talk, which means musical instruments. During the time of the Prophet (pbuh) there was no audio cassettes one could purchase but there we musical instruments like a rabab which is similar to a guitar or a flute
It is further said in Sahih Muslim Book #004, Hadith #1942
‘A’isha reported: The Messenger of Allah (way peace be upon him) came (in my apartment) while there were two girls with me singing the song of the Battle of Bu’ath. He lay down on the bed and turned away his face. Then came Abu Bakr and he scolded me and said: Oh! this musical instrument of the devil in the house of the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him)! The Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) turned towards him and said: Leave them alone. And when he (the Holy Prophet) became unattentive, I hinted them and they went out, and it was the day of ‘Id and negroes were playing with shields and speare. (I do not remember) whether I asked the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) or whether he said to me if I desired to see (that sport). I said: Yes. I stood behind him with his face parallel to my face, and he said: O Banu Arfada, be busy (in your sports) till I was satiated. He said (to me): Is that enough? I said: Yes. Upon this he asked me to go.
Even something as simple as a bell is considered Haram, we read in Sahih Muslim Book #024, Hadith #5279
Abu Huraira reported Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: The bell is the musical instrument of the Satan.
Also it says in Sahih Bukhari, this is not the one that has been refuted it in Sahih Bukhari Book #58 Hadith #268
Narrated Aisha: That once Abu Bakr came to her on the day of ‘Id-ul-Fitr or ‘Id ul Adha while the Prophet was with her and there were two girl singers with her, singing songs of the Ansar about the day of Buath. Abu Bakr said twice. “musical instrument of Satan!†But the Prophet said, “Leave them Abu Bakr, for every nation has an ‘Id (i.e. festival) and this day is our ‘Id.â€
The word musical instruments is referred in Sahih Bukhari 5 times
In Book #15, Hadith #70 “musical instruments of Satan near the Prophet (p.b.u.h) ?â€
In Book #15, Hadith #72 “musical instruments of Satan in the house of Allah’s Apostle !â€
In Book #58, Hadith #268 “musical instrument of Satan!â€
In Book #61, Hadith #568 “O Abu Musa! You have been given one of the musical wind-instruments of the family of David .’
In Book #69, Hadith #494 “From among my followers there will be some people who will consider illegal sexual intercourse, the wearing of silk, the drinking of alcoholic drinks and the use of musical instruments, as lawful.
Conclusion
If nothing, we know that the use of musical instruments is forbidden by the Prophet(pbuh) in no less that three places therefore music is haram.
THIS PART IS FURTHER EXPLINATION DEALING WITH THE SKEPTICS ARGUMENT:
For a Muslim who already believes that music or singing is Haram, this should be more then sufficient. To hold and argument this view point should put both of them on the same stage. If I were to leave this topic here, this should be enough but I will not do so because I need to do justice with the topic.
PEOPLE BELIEVE THAT MUSIC IS HALAL BASED ON THE FOLLOWING VERSES.
The first verse comes in Surah Al-Isra, Chapter #17 Verse #55
And your Lord knows best all who are in the heavens and the earth. And indeed, We have preferred some of the Prophets above others, and to Dawood (David) We gave the Zaboor (Psalms)
I question you, how is this verse show any relevance to how music is Halal ? A lot of people have a misconception and this specially applies to Muslims living in the west that Prophet Dawood (pbuh) sang /composed the Psalms or the Zaboor on a musical instrument. It is a common misconception even amongst some of the scholars that Prophet Dawood (pbuh) sang the Psalms in accompany of music. If Prophet Dawood (pbuh) was to sing the Psalms or compose it would it be the word of ALLAH or the word of Prophet Dawood (pbuh) ?
The Zaboor (Psamls) was revealed just like the Quran, Torah and the Injeel. The misunderstood in this context which is taken for singing is the word Az- Zaboor which means “A Sacred Song†which by no means is an implication of allowing music. This word was given to the beauty of the Zaboor (Psalms) and how Prophet Dawood (pbuh) use to recite it. If one was to read the Psalms (in the Old Testament) one would find a mention of singing and an instrument but not in the context that it would apply to singing.
It says in Psalms Chapter 7, Verse 13
He hath also prepared for him the instrument of death, he ordaineth his arrows against the persecutors.
And says in Psalms Chapter 9, Verse 11
Sing praises to the Lord, which dwelleth in Zion: declare amongst the people his doings.
I question the skeptics, does this by any means show even a slight bit of sign showing music is Halal? One is talking about the instrument of death and the other is talking about songs in Glory of Allah meaning a Hamd. This by no means is an explination of singing songs for God. One would never sing Nothing Else Matters by Metallica for Al Mighty God.
THE SECOND VERSE
It comes in Surah Sad, Chapter #38 Verse #42
“Strike the ground with your foot: This is a spring of water to wash in, cool and a (refreshing) drink.â€
This verse by no means is referring as striking your foot on the ground as dancing. In this verse ALLAH Subhana Wa Ta Aala directs Prophet Ayoob (pbuh) to strike the foot on the ground and when he does a spring comes forth. He then drinks from the spring and further goes to say in
Surah Sad, Chapter #38 Verse 51
Therein will they recline (at ease): Therein can they call (at pleasure) for fruit in abundance, and (delicious) drink.
ANALYSING THE HADITH
The strongest argument that is put forth is why did Prophet told Hazrat Ayesha (RA) to leave the kids alone that were playing music. It comes in Sahih Muslim Book #004, Hadith #1942
‘A’isha reported: The Messenger of Allah (way peace be upon him) came (in my apartment) while there were two girls with me singing the song of the Battle of Bu’ath. He lay down on the bed and turned away his face. Then came Abu Bakr and he scolded me and said: Oh! this musical instrument of the devil in the house of the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him)! The Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) turned towards him and said: Leave them alone. And when he (the Holy Prophet) became unattentive, I hinted them and they went out, and it was the day of ‘Id and negroes were playing with shields and speare. (I do not remember) whether I asked the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) or whether he said to me if I desired to see (that sport). I said: Yes. I stood behind him with his face parallel to my face, and he said: O Banu Arfada, be busy (in your sports) till I was satiated. He said (to me): Is that enough? I said: Yes. Upon this he asked me to go.
The part in the verse when the Prophet (pbuh) says to allow them to play on that certain occasion does not mean it is allowed for all times. Also what people fail to see that it was the day of Eid. If for example your parents have allowed you to play till five and one day your mother calls you in but its Eid day and your father says let them play longer does that mean that your suppose to play after five o clock ? After the Prophet left Hazrat Ayesha (RA) hinted them to leave. Why would Hazrat Ayesha (RA) hint them to leave if there was nothing wrong with it ? Also Prophet (pbuh) never said they are not instruments of Saitan. He never pointed out what Hazrat Abu Bakr was saying was incorrect. Meaning he agreed with Hazrat Abu Bakr’s stand.
If one was to argue that Prophet (pbh) told them to stay because he wanted to hear them, then why would Hazrat Ayesha (RA) tell them to leave if she knew the Prophet (pbuh) was enjoying it.
In Islam everything is very clear. There is not a single Hadith or Quranic Verse that allows the playing of music.
For those who think this is a gray area where you can not decided wither it is right or wrong, think about it logically if you are not sure wither a food is poisonous or not will you eat it ? Obviously not, for someone in their right mind would stay away from something harmful.
Islam is not only a religion but a way of life, whose way of life? The ways of life of the Prophet (pbuh) and he never played musical instruments or sing songs. There is not a single Hadith that says Prophet was singing, or playing a flute or any instrument.
THOUGHTS AND LOGIC
A common question is: Is music really that harmful that the Prophet (pbuh) put it in the same category as illegal sex, drinking of alcohol and wearing silk. Just for reference it comes in Sahih Bukhari
In Sahih Bukhari Book #69, Hadith #494 “From among my followers there will be some people who will consider illegal sexual intercourse, the wearing of silk, the drinking of alcoholic drinks and the use of musical instruments, as lawful.
The question is, is it really that bad? Well my question is, is that not what your creator who knows you better than you know yourself is telling you? Have we not seen enough celebrities especially in the music field involved with drugs, alcohol, who commit illegal sexual intercourse?
These are questions that answer themselves, I have personally been a musician. I started singing at the age of 7 and played guitar for a good 3 to 4 years. Had my own band and got gigs every now and then. This one Hadith was enough for me to stop music and singing. Also because I know how addictive music is. One could easily spend 14-16 hours on a guitar.
Why is it that it is so hard for a normal teenager or adult to stop listening to music? Why does it have such a great impact? If this is not addiction then I am not very much sure myself what is.
SCIENTIFIC REASONING
Today, science after much progress tells us that music can be harmful to humans, just to list a few:
- Music affects the amplitude and frequency of brain waves, which can be measured by an electro-encephalogram. Music also affects breathing rate and electrical resistance of the skin. It has been observed to cause the pupils to dilate, increase blood pressure, and increase the heart rate.
- Certain kinds of music are energizing for your children’s minds and can help them learn much faster, and even help them digest their food better. Other types of music actually drain energy from your children’s brains and bodies and can actually affect their hormone levels (this is especially a problem with teens).
- Music affects cell protoplasm and even chromosomes. Consider what you are passing on to your children and their children.
- Educators and researchers are finding direct relationships between music and television habits and the mental, verbal and behavioral development of our children.
To finish it off I will leave you people with an open challenge for everyone. Find me one verse from the Quran or the Hadith where Prophet Muhammad (saw) said play music, sing, where he himself did it or in any way encouraged it.
If one can do that, I have no problem accepting it as long as the Hadith is authentic.
I hope I have provided sufficient proof from Quran, Hadith and Logic that one would be convinced inshALLAH.
References for the scientific arguments I listed:
1. Tame, David. The Secret Power of Music. Destiny Books, 1984. pp. 141-145.
2. Ibid., p. 145.
3. Lipkin, Richard. Insight Magazine, April 4, 1988. p. 58.
4. Healy, Jane M., Ph.D. Endangered Minds. Touchstone, 1990. p. 51
5. Tame, David. The Secret Power of Music. Destiny Books, 1984. p. 138.
6. Ibid., p.141.
7. Ostrander, Sheila & Schroeder, Lynn. Super Learning 2000. Delacorte Press, 1994. pp. 91-94.
8. Ibid., p. 95.
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Assalaam-o-alaikum!
I wasn’t willing to comment but the biasedness of the author forced me to do so. His highlightings in red shows that he wants to distract the attention of the readers towards his ideology
Few questions I’d ask the dear author and all his supporters:
1. What r the opposites of Haram and Makrooh? and what’s the difference b/w Lahwal Hadeeth and Haram? and are all lahwal hadeeth haraam?
2. If you’ve got ahadith that shows the acceptibility of music, how can you justify your stance of making Music HARAM? Quran condems poetry too, why isn’t it made HARAM?
3. What if Hazrat Abdur Razaq mentions by narrating Hazrat Ibn-e-Omar that Prophet Dawood used musical instruments, would you ignore it? coz, i never find any hadith or Qur’an contrary to that.
4. Even if singing is permitted, one hadith quotes that on the doomsday the they will be punished by pouring into their ears for hearing the voice of a singer. Now why don’t you point out singing as HARAM too? Why is this offer only valid for the music or its instruments?
5. If musical instruments are HARAM, then what is DAFF (or hand-drum)? And the beats it make, why aren’t they music?
6. If musical instruments are HARAM, how can SPEAKERS be HALAL? Why do we have such musical instruments in our mosques? And if u (lamely) try to justify that speakers r not instruments, then is it HALAL to hear music from them? :p
7. If scientific reasonings are used to make a thing HARAM due to its demerits, then why isn’t beef haram? why isn’t camel meat haram? these two things bear so many hazards but r halal. why r other things that r HAZARDOUS not HARAM?
8. If SAHIH AHADEETH r always sahih or non-contradictory. What wud u say abt a hadeeth in ibn-e-maja that indicates that Qur’an is revealed in Sha’ban (contrary to what Qur’an tells that it was revealed in Ramadan)? What would you say about Bukhari’s hadeeth abt the way to offer Salaah while the exactly next one contradicts the method?
9. Last but not least, if we quote hadeeth that the musician or a painter will be having the BIGGEST/MOST SEVERE punishment in hell, then why isn’t there any single verse in the Qur’an that indicates music to be haram, just like drinking wine? why isn’t there a single word of “MOSEEQEE”? If Allah can mention major things like zakat etc. (and as every Haram thing is MAJOR too) and even minor things (like saying Masha Allah), then why didn’t Allah discussed even a speck of this (so-called) SERIOUS ISSUE?
I’ll be looking forward to your honest (and unbiased) response
Walaikum-as-salam Wa Rehmatullahe Wa Baraka Tu Hu
Brother Sameer, I am happy that you commented on the article, so first and for most thank you for that. Secondly, my intention in highlighting the text is not to distract the audience but for them to focus on it. I am not a Prophet or a Messenger and nor do I claim to have every single piece of information about Islam but I do share what I know to be true =). As for your points, I shall answer them and inshALLAH it will be convincing enough.
1. (A)The opposite of Haram (Forbidden) is Halal (compulsory) and opposite of Makrooh (not recommended) is Wajib (Highly recommended, some scholars will also translate wajib as almost equavalent to fard).
(B) Difference between Lahwal Hadith and Haram is, Haram is something that has been told not only in the Hadith but also the Quran and should not be acted upon. Lahwal Hadiths are Hadiths referring to Music and also include the reference of the Duff as being permissible.
(C) Not all Lahwal Hadeeth (Hadeeth that refer to music or purchase of Music or purchase of instruments or singers) are Haram.
2. If there is a Hadith that shows music as Halal then please refer to it, also look into the context and the instruments referred too, there is a large misconception about some Hadith that are used to prove music as Halal, for example when the Prophet came back from war people were celebrating and were playing duff, therefore duff is considered Halal but there are clear and authentic Hadith that forbid any other instrumental use.
3. Hazrat Dawood (pbuh) did not use any musical instruments, the word that is mostly confused in this sense is the word “Mizmar” which was originally confused with a flute but in this context it is used as a beautiful voice.
This is like when Abu Bakr (may Allaah be pleased with him) described singing as the flutes or musical instruments of the Shaytaan, as al-Bukhaari (3931) and Muslim (892) narrated from ‘Aa’ishah that Abu Bakr entered upon her when the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) was with her on the day of (Eid) al-Fitr or Adha, and there were two young girls singing lines of poetry that were said by the Ansaar on the day of Bu’aath. Abu Bakr said: Flutes of the Shaytaan! The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Let them be, O Abu Bakr, for every people has its Eid and our Eid is this day.”
The two young girls did not have a flute or musical instrument with them, but he (may Allaah be pleased with him) called singing the flute of the shaytaan, likening it to that because he found it displeasing.
4. I dont point out singing because not all forms of singing are Haram, people who recite naats, hamds and nasheeds without music is Halal.
5. Regarding duff, Duff is an instruments that makes a beat, it does not music. In singing music there are various position for example a soprano, an alto, a tenant, similarly in music there are classifications, a duff does not make music but a beat, on a duff you can not imitate human sounds unlike a guitar or a violin where you can imitate human voices which is intoxicating, if a person is playing a guitar one would listen to it and love it, but a duff will never intoxicate you with the quality of music. I know so because I use to be a guitarist and now I play a duff/dhol
6. Speakers are not musical instruments, they are amplifiers of sound, the original speaker was not invented for the purpose of music but for gathering large crowds.
You are getting confused in what is the purpose of an object and the use of it. Computer per say is not Haram, but if you watch porn on it, it is Haram. Television per say is not Haram, but if you watch indian songs on it, it is. Imagine it this way, if there is a TV lying in your house that does not work, is that TV haram? It is not for it is just a box, it is the use of the Television that makes it Haram, not its presence.
7. Brother even sneezing is harmful for you, staying under water for more then 3 seconds is harmful for you. Eating any form of fat is harmful for you even not eating meat is harmful for you. As for science, science is not the bases of my argument because we all know science many a time takes U turns.
-150 years ago, science claimed the earth was flat
-100 years ago science said earth is the center of the earth
-10 years ago, science said Sun is stationary
Today, even as close as 10 years ago, science has been proven wrong and today we know that the sun also rotates on an axis. So science is not the rope I am hanging on rather on fundamentals and teachings of Islam.
9) The Quran gives a general discription of that and the Surah I have quoted Surah Luqman, Chapter #31 Verse #6, also where does the Quran forbid smoking cigarette or doing drugs ? It gives a general layout, it provides you the category and you can list things that fall in that category.
I hope this has helped you, sorry for making it too long but this is what was minimum required. I hope to hear from you again because this way both of our Imaan with get strengthen.
Assalam-u-alaikum
Salaam!
First of all, I’m apologetic for a late reply. I’ve went through all your reply (with a smile ) I appreciate your efforts to reply to my post. However, I think I would have to deviate from the topic by first explaining HOW SIHA SITTA can not actually be SAHEEH.
Let me start from the Sha’ban hadeeth. Ibne Majah, Nisaee, Tirmadhi and Bayhaqi while discussing the importance of 15th of Sha’ban states that on this night, the decree of birth and death, and provisions of the people are made on this night and the angels come down by the God’s will on this very night. Now, what does Qur’an tells us about this? Consult Surah Qadar(The Night of Decree No. 97) , especially verse 4; “Therein descend the angels and the Spirit [Gabriel] by Allah’s Permission with all Decrees”. There are certain other places where Allah mentions in the Qur’an that it’s in Ramadan that these decrees take place and NOT what these so-called saheehs state.
Now come to Bukhari. A dilemma about our basic beliefs that it puts us in…
Narrated Ibn ‘Abbas: ‘Umar said, Ubai was the best of us in the recitation (of the Qur’an) yet we leave some of what he recites.’ Ubai says, ‘I have taken it from the mouth of Allah’s Apostle and will not leave for anything whatever.” [Volume 6, Book 61, Number 527]
From this hadeeth, we see an indication that one of Prophet’s top teachers of the Qur’an, one of the ones Prophet himself said we should turn to if we are to learn the Qur’an, says that he heard Prophet reveal a verse that others have left out of the Qur’an. Now either (1) Ubay was right about this verse, and it was left out of the Qur’an mistakenly, or (2) Ubay was wrong about this verse, and the Prophet did a poor job picking his top teachers (especially if, as Muslims usually purport, there were many huffaz at that time who could have corrected his false understanding)
One of the ahadeeth states: “Narrated ‘Abdullah bin ‘Umar; Allah’s Apostle ordered that the dogs should be killed.” [Volume 4, Book 54, Number 540]
Coming to another hadeeth “Narrated Abu Huraira: Allah’s Apostle said, “A prostitute was forgiven by Allah, because, passing by a panting dog near a well and seeing that the dog was about to die of thirst, she took off her shoe, and tying it with her head-cover she drew out some water for it. So, Allah forgave her because of that.” [Volume 4, Book 54, Number 538]
Is that a contradiction or deprivation from a possibility of good deed by killing the dogs? Qur’an says at one place: “And those beasts and birds of prey (INCLUDING DOGS) which you have trained as hounds, training and teaching them (to catch) in the manner as directed to you by Allah; so eat of what they catch for you” [5:4] So, if all the dogs have to be killed, how would you train them to catch your prey or give them water when panted???
Your point being ?
I tried to post sevaral ahadeeth more but I don’t know why it didn’t appear with my post. The point was just to highlight some issues that any man with little conscience and logic can tell that ahadeeth could be fabricated or false. Anyway, ignoring the sex ahadeeth, i’ll try to post some of the ahadeeth again…
We all know it very well that urine is an extremely NAJIS (impure) thing. Even its slight sprinkling on clothes makes one impure. Let’s see what SAHEEH bukhari states in the BOOK OF MEDICINE;
“Narrated Anas: The climate of Medina did not suit some people, so the Prophet ordered them to follow his shepherd, i.e. his camels, and drink their milk and urine (as a medicine). So they followed the shepherd that is the camels and drank their milk and urine till their bodies became healthy. Then they killed the shepherd and drove away the camels. When the news reached the Prophet he sent some people in their pursuit. When they were brought, he cut their hands and feet and their eyes were branded with heated pieces of iron.” [Volume 7, Book 71, Number 590 (also see Number 623)]
According to this hadeeth, the Prophet of Pure ordered them to DRINK URINE. Not only this, see the QISAS for murdering the shepherd. The culprits were punished by their hands cut and their eyes branded with heated iron.
Also regarding QISAS of DHIMMI, it is found in ahadeeth that if a non-muslim kills a muslim, he shall have a death punishment but if a muslim kills a non-muslim, he shall not be killed but imposed with a fine [Bukhari Hadith 9.50 Narrated by Abu Juhaifa and Abu-Dawood Hadith 2745 Narrated by Abdullah ibn Amr ibn al-'As]
Now let’s see what Qur’an tells us about Qisas:
“And We ordained therein for them: “Life for life, eye for eye, nose for nose, ear for ear, tooth for tooth, and wounds equal for equal.” But if anyone remits the retaliation by way of charity, it shall be for him an expiation. And whosoever does not judge by that which Allah has revealed, such are the wrong-doers.” [5:45]
“O ye who believe! the law of equality is prescribed to you in cases of murder: the free for the free, the slave for the slave, the woman for the woman…. After this whoever exceeds the limits shall be in grave penalty.” [2:178]
Coming to another strange hadeeth of Bukhari:
“Narrated Abu Huraira: (The Prophet) Solomon son of (the Prophet) David said, “Tonight I will go round (i.e. have sexual relations with) one hundred women (my wives) everyone of whom will deliver a male child who will fight in Allah’s Cause.” On that an Angel said to him, “Say: ‘If Allah will.’ ” But Solomon did not say it and forgot to say it. Then he had sexual relations with them but none of them delivered any child except one who delivered a half person. The Prophet said, “If Solomon had said: ‘If Allah will,’ Allah would have fulfilled his (above) desire and that saying would have made him more hopeful.” [Bukhari, Volume 7, Book 62, Number 169]
Now let us suppose that the night is of 10 hrs and assuming that all the hundred wives are on a single GIGANTIC bed (so that there would be no commutation time), so it means he would be giving around 6 minutes to each wife. Incredibly amazing, don’t u think? Or maybe lack of time was also one of the reasons of not having a child.
Regarding RAJM (stoning to death), let’s see some ahadeeth:
“Stoning is in the Book of GOD. It is the right punishment for a person who commits adultery if the required witnesses are available, or there was pregnancy without marriage or adultery is admitted.”
“When the verses “Rajm” [Stoning] and ayah “Rezah Kabir” descended, they were written on a piece of paper and kept under my pillow. Following the demise of Prophet Muhammad (S) a goat ate the piece of paper while we were mourning.
Refer also 1. Sunan Ibne Majah, Volume 2, Page 39, Published Karachi, 2. Musnad Imam Ahmad, Volume 6, Page 269, Published Beirut and 3. Taweel Mukhtalif Al Hadees, Page 310, Published Beirut.
There is also hadeeth that tells that monkeys were stoning to death a she-monkey and the passing by sahaba participated in that stoning ceremony [Bukhari Volume 5, Book 58, Number 188]
Now if stoning to death is for a married woman, how would you explain the following verse?
“…and when they (married slave women) are taken in marriage, then if they are guilty of indecency, they shall suffer half the punishment which is (inflicted) upon free women…” [4:25]
It means that if a free woman who is married commits adultery, she shall be stoned to death, and if a slave woman who is married commits adultery, she shall receive half of the punishment, i.e. stoning her half to death???
(contd.)
Qur’an has mentioned the word RAJM at 5 different places:
In Surah 26:116 Noah was threatened with stoning by the pagan disbelievers.
In Surah 19:46 Abraham’s father who was a pagan disbeliever threatens to stone Abraham.
In Surah 18:20 the Companions of the Cave (Ashaabul Kahfi) are in fear of being stoned by the pagan disbelievers.
In Surah 36:18 three messengers are threatened with stoning by the pagan disbelievers.
In Surah 11:91 the Prophet Shuaib is threatened with stoning by the pagan disbelievers.
So, who was the party to rajm? Apparently, the DISBELIEVERS… So, what would be the punishment in this regard? Refer to the Qur’an in the following verses:
“(As for) the fornicatress and the fornicator, flog each of them, (giving) a hundred stripes, and let not pity for them detain you in the matter of obedience to GOD, if you believe in GOD and the last day, and let a party of believers witness their chastisement.”[24:2]
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I think this explanation (though lengthy enough) would suffice to make you understand how ahadeeth (of which we call to be most authentic after Qur’an) can be false, fake and contradictory.
Next, I shall come back to the point of how music is NOT be HARAM…
Prophet David used to sing his Psalms. Psalms (zaboor) itself means a sacred song. Some don’t believe but Prophet David used musical instruments too. Besides Musnad of Abdur Razzaq, Psalms of David also mentions his use instruments, particulary that ones which some molvis consider HARAM (without any sound evidence)
“I will sing a new song to You, O God; on a harp of ten strings I will sing praises to You.” (Psalms 144:9)
If we say the word “Mizmir” used in ahadeeth is not musical instruments but singing/beautiful voice, then Abu Musa also said: “Allah has prohibited and forbidden MIZMIR” so it means mizmir whether instrument or voice is HARAM???
Coming to some ahadeeth about singing and music (as you told me to mention);
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Narrates ‘A’ishah (rta): The Messenger (sws) of God came to my residence while two female singers were singing the songs of Bu‘ath. The Holy Prophet (sws) lay down and turned his face to the other side. Meanwhile Abu Bakr (rta) entered and [seeing the singers] rebuked me thus: ‘Satanic musical instruments in the presence of the Holy Prophet (sws)?’ On hearing this God’s Messenger (sws) turned towards him and said: ‘Let them [sing and rejoice]’. When Abu Bakr was engaged in some other business, I signalled to the girls [to go out] and they left. It was on the ‘Id day. (Bukhari, No: 907)
This clearly tells the lawfulness of music and/or singing WITHOUT ANY OBJECTIONS
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Umm-i-Salamah narrates: A slave girl belonging to Hassan Ibn Thabit (rta) came to us on ‘Id al Fitr. Her hair was unkempt and she carried a tambourine and was singing [some song]. Umm-i-Salamah rebuked her. But the Holy Prophet (sws) said to her: ‘Ummi-i-Salamah, let her [sing and rejoice]. Certainly every nation has an ‘Id and this day is our ‘Id’. (Mu‘jam Al-Kabir, No: 558)
Singing with a musical instrument is clearly permissible in this hadeeth.
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Narrates Ibn ‘Abbas: ‘A’ishah (rta) arranged the marriage of a close Ansari girl. The Holy Prophet (sws) also came to attend the ceremony. He inquired from the people: ‘Have you sent forth the bride?’ ‘Yes’, they replied. ‘Did you send any singer with her?’ He asked. ‘A’ishah (rta) replied in the negative. The Holy Prophet (sws) then remarked: ‘The Ansar cherish singing. It would be better that you sent along with her a singer who would sing ‘We have come to you; we have joined you. Peace be upon us. Peace be upon you.’ (Ibn Majah, No: 1900)
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‘A’ishah (rta) reports: An Ansari girl lived under my guardianship and I arranged her marriage. The Holy Prophet (sws) came to my house on the day she was married and did not hear any songs or any other joyful activities. [Observing this] he asked of me: ‘Did you people sing to her or not?’ ‘This is the tribe of the Ansar who like singing,’ he added. (Ibn Hibban, No: 5875)
The Prophet himself encouraged them to send and arrange a SINGER.
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Ibn ‘A’ishah narrates: When the Holy Prophet (sws) came to Madinah, the women and the children started singing: ‘The Moon has risen upon us from the hillocks of Wida‘. We owe gratitude [to God] as long as those who call God continue doing so. O Prophet (sws) you have brought a religion that is worthy to be followed’.
Again the people were singing in front of him and nobody has got to be condemned by the Prophet.
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Narrates Anas Ibn Malik: [Having entered the city], the Holy Prophet (sws) passed through a certain part of the town. Suddenly some slave girls appeared singing on the Daff the following ditty: ‘We are the slave girls of Bani Najjar. How lucky! This day the Holy Prophet (sws) has come to be our neighbor’. At this the Holy Prophet (sws) remarked: ‘God knows that I love you people’ (Ibn Majah, No: 1899)
It means that the Prophet loved the ones who were using Ma’azif
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Narrates Salama Ibn Al-Akwa‘: ‘We set off for Khaybar in the company of the Holy Prophet (sws) at night. A man from the group said to ‘Amir: ‘O ‘Amir, would not you let us hear your poetry?’ ‘Amir who was a Hida poet got down and started reciting for the people [the following verses]: ‘O God, were not it for your guidance, we could not have been able to offer the Salah and pay the Zakah. So please forgive our sins that [we have committed] and the ones we may commit in future. We are ready to offer our lives for your cause. Grant us perseverance when faced [with the enemy] and pour down your mercy upon us. [We are the people] who refuse to surrender when the enemy challenges us to fight. And [we leave them] to cry for help against us’. The Holy Prophet asked: ‘Who is that singer?’ They replied: ‘‘Amir bin Al-Akwa‘’. ‘God bless him’, prayed the Holy Prophet (sws). (Bukhari, No: 3960)
Again the singing is not shunned by the Prophet.
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The Holy Prophet had a Had, Anjashah. He had a very sweet sound. [During one of his journeys] the Holy Prophet (sws) said to him: ‘Slow down, Anjashah, lest you should break the delicate goblets. Qatadah explained that the Prophet (sws) was referring to delicate women. (Bukhari, No: 5857)
The Prophet had his own singer for his entertainment????
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Narrates Rabi‘, daughter of Mu‘wwadh: On the occasion of my transfer to my husband’s home after marriage, the Holy Prophet (sws) came to visit us and sat down on my bed just as you [the next narrator] are sitting before me now. Some slave girls were beating the Daff and singing in lamentation of their forefathers who had been killed during the battle of Badr. Then one of the girls sang: ‘Among us is the Prophet (sws) who knows even what will happen in coming days’. At this, the Holy Prophet (sws) said: ‘Do not say this, but go on singing. (Bukhari, No: 3779)
Ma’azif again without any condemnation except over the controversial part of the song
The Holy Prophet (sws) said: ‘the only thing that distinguishes the allowable act (i.e. Nikah) from the forbidden one (fornication) is the beat of the tambourine and open declaration of the Nikah. 14 (Ibn Majah, No: 1896)
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Narrates Sa’ib Ibn Yazid: A woman came to the Holy Prophet (sws). He asked ‘A’ishah (rta): ‘Do you know her?’ ‘No, O Prophet (sws) of God’ she replied. ‘This is the female professional singer of such and such tribe. Do you want her to sing to you?’ So the woman sang for her. (Bayhaqi, No: 8940)
A professional singer sang on the request of the Prophet for Aisha. Still we believe in singing to be a sinful act?
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Narrates ‘A’ishah (rta): The Holy Prophet (sws) was present among us when suddenly we heard children creating noise. The Holy Prophet (sws) stood up. [We found out] that a black slave woman was dancing encircled by children. The Holy Prophet (sws) [called me] saying: ‘‘A’ishah (rta), come and watch’. I came [to him] placed my chin over the Prophet’s shoulders and watched through the space between his shoulders and head. The Holy Prophet (sws) asked many times: ‘Have you not got enough of it?’ In order to know how he cares for me I continued replying in the negative. Meanwhile ‘Umar (rta) came and the gathering disbursed [seeing him]. At this the Holy Prophet commented: ‘I see that (even) the devils from among the Jinn and the humans have fled at ‘Umar arrival.’ (Tirmidhi, No: 3691)
I was amazed to see that some tirmidhi collections have even skipped this hadeeth.
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Abdullah Ibn Buridah narrates on the authority of his father: The Holy Prophet (sws) returned from some of his military expeditions. A black slave girl approached him and said: ‘I had vowed to beat the Daff before you if God brought you back unhurt’. The Holy Prophet replied: ‘If you have, then proceed’. She started beating the Daff. Meanwhile Abu Bakr (rta) came and she continued beating it. Later when ‘Umar (rta) came she covered her instrument under herself as soon as she saw him. At this the Holy Prophet (sws) commented: ‘‘Umar, even Satan fears you’. (Bayhaqi, No: 19888)
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Anas (rta) narrates: Black slaves were dancing in front of the Messenger (sws) of God and sang the following words: ‘Muhammad (sws) is a pious person’. The Holy Prophet (sws) [did not understand their utterances] and asked what they were saying. The people replied: ‘they say that Muhammad (sws) is a pious person’. (Ahmad, No: 12562)
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The Hadith literature contains enough evidence to the fact that professional dancers from among the Abyssinian slaves used to perform before the Arabs. The nobles of Arabia would not consider enjoying such performances as undesirable.
Narrates ‘A’ishah (rta): Once on an ‘Id day the Abyssinian slaves came and started dancing in the mosque. The Holy Prophet (sws) called me. I placed my head on the Holy Prophet’s shoulder and started watching their performance. [The Holy Prophet did not stop me] until I myself got tired of watching them and turned away. (Muslim, No: 892)
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Anas Ibn Malik narrates that when the Prophet (sws) passed by a clan of Bani Najjar, he noticed some slave girls were singing on Daff: ‘We are the singers of Bani Najjar. We are lucky enough to have the Prophet (sws) as our neighbour today’. Then the Prophet (sws) said: ‘God knows that my heart feels affection for you people’. (Al-Mu‘jam Al-Saghir, No: 78)
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So many times we see Ma’azif (in all its three forms) in front of the Prophet. And we still claim the authenticity of Ahadeeth that states music to be haram. We quote hadeeth telling us that molten lead will be poured in ears of those who would listen to a songstress, yet the Prophet himself encouraged to arrange a singer and requested songstresses to sing and use MA’AZIF.
There are hadeeth that forbid listening to a singing voice and there r hadeeth that permit and encourages singing. Would both of them be authentic? Same is the case of music and its instruments. We find some hadeeth prohibiting music and its instruments while some shows NO OBJECTION over its use. And then we say that this and this instrument is halal and this and this instrument is haram, referring to ulemas’ sayings with having no solid and sound proof that the Prophet had ever said so. I never heard any hadeeth stating “DAFF is not a musical instrument” or “DAFF makes no music” or even “I prohibit all instruments except DAFF…including the instruments invented after” so it wont be wise to argue over it…
Ofcourse some people would ask “how do you think that the hadeeth that prohibits music is not saheeh and that which permits it would be acceptable?” The answer is simple… Refer to the Qur’an. About singing, God says in the Qur’an “Sing Glory and Praise to their Lord” [40:7]. Moreover, there is no verse that clearly indicates music to be Haram. I’ve seen brother Waqas justifying his stance from the following verse:
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“And of men is he who takes instead frivolous discourse to lead astray from Allah’s path without knowledge, and to take it for a mockery; these shall have an abasing chastisement.”[31:6]
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I don’t understand how your conscience makes you believe that music is forbidden in this verse. You quote this verse as focusing on this part of another verse “O you who believe! Do not approach the prayer…” [4:43] without pointing out the reason which is stated next to these wordings “…when you are in a drunken state…” It’s absurd to justify that Allah has forbidden to approach the prayer without mentioning the drunken condition. Similarly in [31:6], the word Lahwal hadeeth is prohibited when it is TO LEAD ASTRAY from Allah’s path. We don’t coinsider other lahwal hadeeth (especially “idle talk” that carries its literal meaning) HARAM except music. Why so? Even I see you convinced that music does not fulfill HARAM requirements. So, is it Biasedness? Or is it that some ulema have said so? When once the Prophet was reciting the Qur’an and said about the Christians that they make their priests their God, Adee Bin Hatim (who was himself a Christian priest before conversion to Islam) said “O Prophet, christians don’t call/make their priests as God”; to this the Prophet replied in aggression “don’t you make things halal that they say is halal for you and abstain from things that they label as HARAM???”
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My dear friend, if a TV not in use and kept in a box is not a TV and not HARAM, what do you think about a piano or a guitar kept in a box and not in use? ? You said DAFF emits not a music but a beat. It was funny to know that. Music is any “agreeable, pleasing sound”. Beat is itself a basic rhythmic unit of music. About speakers, they may be amplifiers but they are themselves a sort of instrument. Those who forbid music but permit singing make a lame rule that any rhythmic sound coming out of human beings is not music, but any such sound coming out of any non-living thing is a music and is HARAM… lol… God condemns innovated prohibitions [see 7:32] Logically and technically speaking, human voices can imitate sounds of instruments, and sounds of human beings or living things have the same characteristics to acquit a music.
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Allah says in Qur’an: “Say: Tell me what provisions Allah has sent down for you, then you make of it unlawful and lawful. Say: Has Allah commanded you, or do you forge a lie against Allah?” [10:59]
“And who is more unjust than he who forges a lie against Allah or (he who) gives the lie to His communications; surely the unjust will not be successful.” [6:21]
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If someone says that Qur’an is incomplete regarding stating things that are Haram, Allah answers to this as: “… and He has already made plain to you what He has forbidden to you…” [6:119]
“Shall I seek other than Allah for judge, when He it is Who hath revealed unto you (this) Scripture, fully explained ?” [6:114]
“For We had certainly sent unto them a Book, based on knowledge, which We explained in detail,- a guide and a mercy to all who believe.” [7:52]
“Alif Laam Raa. (This is) a Book, with verses basic or fundamental (of established meaning), further explained in detail,- from One Who is Wise and Well-acquainted (with all things)” [11:1]
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“A Book whereof the Verses are explained in detail A Quran in Arabic for people who know.” [41:3] There are several more places like 12:111 and 16:89 in which Allah tells that the book contains everything in detail.
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Everything in the Qur’an has been mentioned regarding Haram (i.e. prohibitions): “(It is) a Qur’an in Arabic, without any crookedness (therein): in order that they may guard against Evil.” [39:28] So, why didn’t Allah mention about Music or Singing, something of serious issue of which we say to bear BIGGESST PUNISHMENT? Was he short of words? Or did he forget to mention it? Allah tells “…and your Lord is not forgetful.” [19:64]
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Sorry for making it too long but I’m sure it won’t be waste of time for u. I don’t force you to follow my point of view. I’ve just stated the facts and it is you to judge now with your own brain (without any prejudice) to see what is right and what is wrong… (Even if you don’t agree to my point, at least you won’t call it HARAM anymore
Brother Sameer
You are very confused on many point of Islam and specially regarding the part of Zaboor.
Your views are your views but this is a study done that covers all the points regarding music. You will need adobe for this. Please look into it
http://www.missionislam.com/knowledge/books/Music%20and%20Singing.pdf
This covers all the points you have made. =)
Regards
Waqas
I’m amazed that the clarification of “making lawful illegal sex,alcohol and music” hadeeth has been censored during moderation
Anyway, my message is conveyed to you. Now if u still stick to that false hadeeth, its up to “Laa Ikraaha fiddeen=No compulsion in Deen” [Baqara]
I noticed your article saying “Why is it that it is so hard for a normal teenager or adult to stop listening to music?” Let me tell you that i avoided listening to music since i was a baby. I heard it was HARAM as u heard abt it. I used to put fingers in my ear when there was any music. I abstained from it till i was around 18. I’ve spent most of my (dark) teenage without music. Even now, i’m 22 y o, i dont feel too addictive. Days pass by without listening to music. However, i feel more relaxed and fresh when i listen to some music.
Last thing I’d tell you… Even if u think ahadeeth forbidding music r good, they are abrogated by now as Allah says in the Qur’an “All good things are made lawful for you (from) THIS DAY” [Sura Maida]. The question is WHICH DAY? Previous to this verse Allah says “THIS DAY, we have completed your religion for you…”
wallahu a’lum
Sorry, I did not see your reply before my last post. I dont believe you’ve referred to such a confused book…
At times, it shows all types of singing and music is haram, referring to abu hanifa & other HUMANLY ulemas and quoting other hadeeth that even daff (‘azf) is PROHIBITED while mentioning other hadeeth that singing and instruments are permitted. That author mentions logically the distractions caused by music and singing but in JIHAD & ITS ADJUNCT glorifies its benefits to muster up courage. How hypocritical i’d say!!! He refers to anything against music to be AUTHENTIC. You can judge his credibiliy where he states a fabricated hadeeth “Singing sprouts hypocrisy in the heart as rain sprouts herbs and greens” to be “AUTHENTIC” [Read the detailed explanation of 97th or 98th hadeeth in "100 Fabricated Hadeeth"].
I’m not amazed by that author not to discuss the issue of WEARING OF SILK in that very same hadeeth. =) I’m also not amazed when people try to rationalize a SO-CALLED HARAM thing to be allowed and permissible on special occasions :p
Anyway, enough is said about music. The rest is up to the minds. In the end, I offer those people to drink camel’s urine whosoever claims everything contained in Bukhari and other hadeeth to be AUTHENTIC and SAHEEH [Volume 7, Book 71, Number 590 (also see Number 623)]hehehe
That camel urine is to avoid sickness, please dont insult your religion when you dont know the pretext of the Hadith. Your allowed to eat pork if there is no food and your going to die.
So its in extreme cases to avoid sickness, and this is what I mean by you being confused. How is eating pork, an animal that eats its own fieces worse then camel urine. We do something in extreme situations and this is what non muslims do all the time. =)
I remember when i go to Pakistan, the change doesnt suit me for some time. So, if I dont find a camel, can i try cow’s urine? :p
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My dear friend, I wasnt insulting my PURE religion. It was just about the fabrications that insult our religion. Pork is explicitly mentioned to be permissible in case of necessity, i.e. u have nothing else to eat. The Prophetic Medication (Tibb Annabwee) has got so many things to treat sickness (like Black Seed, honey, barley, olive oil, dates etc.) and i dont think Madina ever lacked (at least) any of such resources. Still we blame Prophet to use such wierd medications? It is like curing a flue with wine when you already have a Panadol CF :p Even then if you think it to be actions of the Prophet, you should prove it whenever you fall ill
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We can never understand these things unless we remove the word SAHIH from our books. HOWCOME? Because Believing in these books completely means believing that our Qur’an is not in its complete form with us these days[See Sahih Muslim, Book 005, Number 2286; and Bukhari Volume 6, Book 61, Number 527]. Qur’an at several places mentions that Allah created the universe in SIX days whereas SAHIH MUSLIM tells that Allah created everything in SEVEN days [Book 039, Number 6707]. Sahih Muslim tells that Allah will put the burden of bad deeds of a muslim (even equal to mountain) over Jews or Christians instead [Book 037, Number 6668] whereas Qur’an tells every person shall be rewarded as per his own deeds [6:164, 3:199,53:38-41]. Not only this, Qur’an mentions that even Jews and Christians will be awarded for their good deeds [3:199, 5:69]
To your astonishment, Musnad Ahmed quotes few hadeeth that Prophet condemned recording of Hadeeth or anything other than Qur’an. But then, what is Musnad Ahmed?
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Have you ever wondered why there are contradictions within ahadeeth and ahadeeth with Qur’an? It’s because it is not from God “… And if it were from any other than Allah, they would have found in it many contradictions.” [4:82]
waqas bhai u did exellent job being a muslim..MASHALLAH..
salam…….purely on the notes provided by both waqas and sameer,i thnk so sameer has won the battle..amazing dude…….waqas u r not bad.very kooooooll dude
I dont think this was anything like a battle, its was more or less and exchange of views and I still do stick with my opinion on it keeping in mind
Book #69, Hadith #494 From among my followers there will be some people who will consider illegal sexual intercourse, the wearing of silk, the drinking of alcoholic drinks and the use of musical instruments, as lawful.
So Prophet (pbuh) has already warned us about people considering it lawful, so I did my part, take what ever positive you fine =)
There is a movie named (KHUDA KEY LIYE). I think it was released about two years ago and above all it is a Pakistani production. If any of my discussion fellows have seen this movie before or those who haven’t seen it yet. Let me tell you that this movie spreads a clear message from an authentic source that music is not haraam in Islam.
I don’t remember the source. watch the last 15 minutes of the movie and you’ll get that.
This is to Yasir Umair-So you are gonna ignore the hadith and take your guidance from a movie? I’ve heard it all now.
We are not an authority to declare that music is Halal.All Ulemas of different “Muktaba-e-Fikar” are agreed in the light of Quran & sunnah that Music & poetry both are Haram.Dont go in deep,dont try to find a logic.Don’t try to find a midway.Once it is said Haram, is Haram,at the day of judgement present your logics over there.Why we don’t get a point bcz our every move in life is against Shariah thats why we don’t get the point.
I am not so sure about following what the Ullemas say because for one, Ullemas believe in sects and sects in Islam are Haaram. Ullemas are also humans and all humans make mistake. Follow what is clearly said in the Hadith and Quran and regardless of what any Ullema says. =)
This is to Samina Khan. I was not declaring that Music is halal or haram in Islam. But i dont know which hadith are talking about. Please if your giving a statement or something please give an authentic source with it. Thanks.
Hi,
I just read a Really Good argument! and Learned a Lot from it!
But!
AS what i Know….. EVERYTHING done with good NIYAT is Good!
I my self am a Musician… I only make Music for PEACE, Stop TERRORISM, HAPPINESS, Stop Violence, Brotherhood etc…
No GF And BOYFRIENDs and all that!
I Say that If music is made for Doing Something GOOD!
Means it Is Not bad!
And as Far as Why i say That Music is Not WRONG is
1= When in WINDY season.. The air Passes Through the WINDOW.. ir CREATES a Sound… Like FLUTE on a certain Frequency/pitch! Ohh.. Means NATURE IS DOING A HARAAM THING? KILL THE NATURE?
NATURE IS NOT A MAN MADE THING… IT IS MADE BY ALMIGHTY ALLAH!
MANY BIRDS Sings in a Certain RAGAs and THEY are not Even using Words!
Ohhhh… Then it is also DOing a HARAM thing… KILL IT TOO!
THe NAAT and HAMDs are also made on RAGAS… oooohhhh… KILL THEM too!
The Blowing of Air is Also Done on a SCALE! EVEN….. THE AZAAN is DOne On a Certain RAAGA!
2= As What i Know… Anything ENDS and STARTS again is in RHYTHM… Rhythm is one of the 2 Parst of Music, also Known as TAAL… When U CHEW Something.. Ur making a Rhythm… OR even a TIC TAC Of A watch Is in rhythm… And is CREATING music!
But it is Being Used For GOOD reason!
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What i say is.. IF MUSIC IS MADE FOR A GOOD REASON!
THEN ITS RIGHT!
Refrence…. Micheal Jacksons- Earthsong etc!
@Baboo Waqas–How do you ignore sect in Islam,there would be 72-sects in Islam upto dooms day eve.
You said that why did Prophet Muhammad (saw) not disagree with Abu Bakr about music being instruments of the devil. I invite you to think about this, and I always think about this, and no one can give me an answer.
Music is considered haram on the basis of that one hadith that mentions it amongst other unlawful things like silk, zina, alcohol. So you MUST AGREE that music is THAT HARAM, just as haram as zina and alcohol, right? If it is indeed that haram, why would Hazrat Aisha be allowed to do this on Eid. Why would Prophet Muhammad saw ask Aisha to make sure that she sends singing woman to the Ansar for a wedding as they are found of entertainment (this is another hadith).
Does that mean I can drink alcohol on Eid? No right. So why would something as haram as Music be allowed on Eid?
Obviously, there is inconsistency within this hadith. Not all hadith are true, some have been made up. And there is definitely some inconsistencies in this one.
Assalam-u-alaikum Sister
First and for most, all Sahih Hadith are considered authentic. All hadiths that are doubtful are not in Sahih Muslim and Sahih Bukhari, so there is no inconsistency with the chain of narration of these Hadith.
1. Regarding the level of sin
To understand the level of sin is something that requires the understanding of sharia, and I will give a brief example. In a Muslim society, like that at the time of Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) the “hadd” (limit) for stealing was chopping off the hands. It wasn’t that anyone who steals something you chop their hands off. So the concept of “hadd” (limit) needs to be understood.
Now a simple question, a punishment of a person who does black magic is death, a person who commits murder or rape is death and a person living in an Islamic society who believes in Islam and Salat and does not offer Salat for three days is also death.
(InshAllah I will write a piece on importance of Salat and explain why is there capital punishment to not offer salat)
Now is not offering salat the same as committing a murder or black magic or rape ? We don’t know, we don’t know how Allah accounts us for the sins and we can not perceive it either. To understanding areas or Islam and before questioning Hadith one needs to understand the entire quran with some tafseer and should have read the Seerah and the life of most Sahabas. You enter Islam fully, not half heatedly =).
Secondly, killing a non muslim in Islam is considered Haraam and the punishment is death. Why are we allowed to kill the same Muslims in Harbul Mukadissa (holy way) (Jihad means to strive and struggle, not holy way). It is the occasion that changes some actions.
Also, the music allowed to Hazrat Ayesha (RA) was nothing else but a duff, it is mentioned in other narrations.
May Allah forgive me for any mistakes I have made, may Allah guide who ever one is on the wrong path and not misguide who speaks the truth. If your understanding of Islam is correct may Allah give me Hidyat to accept it and if my understanding is correct may Allah give you Hidayat to accept that.
Assalam-u-alaikum
Walikum Salaam,
Thank you for writing back.
I want you to tell me, what you think of the following ahadith. Both from Bukhari.
“Book 039, Number 6707:
Abu Haraira reported that Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) took hold of my hands and said: Allah, the Exalted and Glorious, created the clay on Saturday and He created the mountains on Sunday and He created the trees on Monday and He created the things entailing labour on Tuesday and created light on Wednesday and lie caused the animals to spread on Thursday and created Adam (peace be upon him) after ‘Asr on Friday;the last creation at the last hour of the hours of Friday, i. e. between afternoon and night.”
Narrated Sahl bin Sad: Allah’s Apostle said, “If at all there is bad omen, it is in the horse, the woman, and the house.” (Sahi Bukahri,Book #62, Hadith #32)
Whoever changes his Islamic religion, kill him. Sahih Al-Bukhari (9:57)
Assalam-u-alaikum Sister
I am not regarding the first Hadith, I have not read it therefore I can not comment, I would have to read this Hadith, the events surrounding the Hadith and the time and location also, so I will come back to that one.
As far the second one is concerned, this is my interpretation of the Hadith, some people might agree or disagree, some scholars might also agree or agree, may Allah forgive me if I say something wrong and guide me to the Truth
a woman may be regarded as a bad omen when she does not produce children, or she has a sharp tongue, or she behaves in a suspicious manner; a horse may be regarded as a bad omen when it is not used in jihad, or it was said, when it is difficult to handle or it is too expensive; and a slave may be regarded as a bad omen when he has a bad attitude or is not trustworthy or reliable.
Narrated Sahl bin Sad: Allah’s Apostle said, “If at all there is bad omen, it is in the horse, the woman, and the house.” (Sahi Bukahri,Book #62, Hadith #32)
Firstly, my view is nothing can cause harm or benefit without the will of Allah, similarly black magic also effects a person by the will of Allah as Allah is the creator of all including evil. (reference read Surah Falaq, verse number 2)
Bad omen in a house refers to being bad neighbors .
Bad omen in a woman can be either she has a sharp tongue or does not want to have children.
Ban omen in a horse is a horse that will not be used where there is need for it in the cause of Allah ( in times of war during the time of Prophet Muhammad (saw)).
Please see this is my understanding of it and it can be incorrect.
Regarding the first Hadith, what is your question because this sounds like the story of creation. Please highlight what I have to focus on.
Assalam-u-alaikum
Are we still debating this subject. Music is not allowed. End of discussion.
Hello there and salaam everyone!
I had been quite away from this discussion but came across this website by chance
Someone described MUSIC in a good way. He said “MUSIC is like a KNIFE. You can cut vegetables and fruits, and you can also cut throats of human beings… You cannot blame KNIFE. It depends upon the use”
ramzan shah> thanx but waqas bhai said it right. it wasnt a battle. its just a discussion… or a debate…. to arrive at a right, logical and sound conclusion about the Misconceived and highly-debated topic
usman hashmani> for ur views, my comments r the same as of waqas brother’s
m. yusha> i think u didnt bother reading the discussion, or atleast the positive side of music…
waqas>
my dear brother, i still dont conceive how you got this idea of making just daff to be Halal. I find it quite strange when we try to make a thing lawful that creates contradictions. In ahadith that states music to be unlawf, even daff is considered unlawful. As i said earlier, daff is also MA’AZIF. besides that, there r some ahadith that specifically state daff to be unlawful and forbidden. I’ll mention three:
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. It is reported that Qaadi Shurayh heard the sound of the daff (being played), whereupon he said, “Verily, the angels do not enter the house in which a daff is played.” [Sunan Nisaee]
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. It was reported by Ibn Abi Shaybah with a good (jayyid) sanad. The second text states that Ibraheem An-Nakha’I said, “The disciples of Abdullah [Ibn Mas'ood] used to confront young girls who had dufoof (plural of daff) with them in the narrow alleyways, confiscate their instruments and break them up.”
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. ‘Abd-Allaah ibn ‘Abbaas (may Allaah be pleased with him) said: The DAFF is haraam, stringed instruments are haraam, drums are haraam and flutes are haraam. [Narrated by al-Bayhaqi, 10/222]
Admit that It is just a matter of CONTRADICTION….. of ideologies i’d say….. u cannot corroborate to make all ahadith to a single conclusion.
And my advice, Following blindly a trademark (of Bukhari) would not do good to anyone
The Prophets wont commit anything that wud have severe (or severest) consequences hereafter. Despite of Prophet David’s instrument, at the time of Prophet Moses, people were called for PRAYER by blowing up a wind instrument (evident from Biblical testaments and even one of Bukhari hadith about deciding how to call muslims for salat).
I totally disagree with the (so-called) AUTHENTIC hadith “severest punishment for musicians and painters” as it is insulting to our respected Prophets… not just in the context of music but also in painting (remember Prophet Solomon made sculptures?)
Also, the surah (i.e. Luqman) we quote as a (lame) proof of forbiddance of music in Qur’an; the same surah states that the believers will be welcomed in heavens with the musical sounds. It means the believers will be welcomed with something BAD???
Anaam> my friend, thanks for pointing out the bukhari reference for hadith of creating world in SEVEN days (in contrary to what Qur’an says it to be SIX). I personally went through bukhari to see if it really exists that way, and guess what?! Yessss, its all there…
I thought that such an absurd hadith was only found in (so-called) SAHIH Muslim (reference is mentioned in my previous comments). It is, hence, proved that even a single hadith mentioned in BUKHARI+MUSLIM does not constitute a true hadith.
I’m not the only one opposing such a wierd fabrication. A renowned scholar named Ibne Taimyah also plainly refused to accept this hadith to be true as it is completely contradicting to what Qur’an tells us at not just one but several places…
Besides that, some are of the view that Allah created it in SIX days which were not similar to earthly days (like sat,sun etc). It describes the God’s own days which we cannot conceive. We do not know how long Allah’s one day actually is. You can find difference of days length on different planets. In other words, those six days are actually six periods in which Almighty created a whole wide world that stretches across trillions and trillions of light years, and even beyond… (there r a lot more things created by Almighty than just a clay, mountains and trees etc.)
Enough for the wise
waqas> dear brother, it seems u dont feel like sharing ur views with us
I just came across this news. so, thought it to be worth-sharing. plz have a look at it:
http://gulfnews.com/news/gulf/saudi-arabia/scholars-divided-over-imam-s-fatwa-on-music-1.647422
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